What bike does the wheel bearing set come from 4 230 USD forks?
Posted 30 April 2012 - 08:47 PM
And what's the difference, if any, between CR85R and CR85 Expert?
Thanks in advance!
Posted 30 April 2012 - 09:33 PM
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Posted 01 May 2012 - 09:06 AM
Just to confirm, then: the wheel bearings used for the converted set-up are the same CRF230F wheel bearings? There is just a different "sleeve" between the "left and right side" bearings? Is the "sleeve" pressed into the stock set-up (I don't know the name for it--the place where the larger, stock axle of the CRF230F would run through)?
Edited by calbikeman2, 01 May 2012 - 09:11 AM.
Posted 01 May 2012 - 12:19 PM
calbikeman2, on 01 May 2012 - 09:06 AM, said:
Yes, you will use your 230 wheel and wheel bearings. You remove the bearings from one side of the wheel and take out the center sleeve (between the bearings), then put the new sleeve and the wheel bearing back in. The new sleeve has a smaller inner diameter and lets you use the smaller 85 axle with your 230 wheel.
I put the CR85 forks (re-valved and heavier springs) on my wife's 230 (plus Reger re-valved shock) and it rides very nice!, even with my heavier (195lbs) weight. I took it out to the woods this weekend and rode it pretty hard all day, and the front wheel only hit the fender 2 times - on rough downhill sections with rocks, roots, and small drops. The CR85 / CRF150R fender will give you almost 1" more clearance.
Posted 01 May 2012 - 05:53 PM
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Posted 01 May 2012 - 07:21 PM
http://rickramsey.ne...tm#crf150rforks
Edited by ramz, 01 May 2012 - 07:22 PM.
Posted 01 May 2012 - 09:14 PM
mdtoney, on 01 May 2012 - 12:19 PM, said:
I put the CR85 forks (re-valved and heavier springs) on my wife's 230 (plus Reger re-valved shock) and it rides very nice!, even with my heavier (195lbs) weight. I took it out to the woods this weekend and rode it pretty hard all day, and the front wheel only hit the fender 2 times - on rough downhill sections with rocks, roots, and small drops. The CR85 / CRF150R fender will give you almost 1" more clearance.
Yo, mdtoney! Did you have the CR85/CRF150R front fender on when you rode your wife's 230 this weekend? (experiencing only 2 fender hits?). So I would just order the CR85/CRF150R fender [what year(s)?] and it would bolt onto my Reger Conversion?
Thanks all you Guys! terrific input!!!
If there's a next time around, I'll look into the 150R forks!
Edited by calbikeman2, 01 May 2012 - 09:15 PM.
Posted 02 May 2012 - 09:25 AM
calbikeman2, on 01 May 2012 - 09:14 PM, said:
I believe any year 85 / 150R fender will work.
My wife's 230 still has the 230 fender - her bike has '05 CR85 forks and triple clamps. My wife still lays her bike down at least once per ride and doesn't want me to buy a new 85 / 150R fender yet because she'll just scratch it up!
I was really surprised that the wheel only hit the fender 2 times all day! The 85 & 150R have 16" front wheel, and the Expert (big wheel) version has 19" - and their fenders are flat where they bolt onto the triple clamp, so a 21" wheel, a 230 fender, and heavier rider (200+ lbs with gear) did really well considering the abuse it received! I ride a 450X and I was really impressed with her 230! A little more power would be nice, but isn't necessary for the woods we ride - I'm 6'1" so give me a taller seat and handlebar, and a little more suspension and I'd be perfectly happy trading my 450X for the 230!! I'm a little shocked I just said that....
Posted 02 May 2012 - 11:19 AM
mdtoney, on 02 May 2012 - 09:25 AM, said:
My wife's 230 still has the 230 fender - her bike has '05 CR85 forks and triple clamps. My wife still lays her bike down at least once per ride and doesn't want me to buy a new 85 / 150R fender yet because she'll just scratch it up!
I was really surprised that the wheel only hit the fender 2 times all day! The 85 & 150R have 16" front wheel, and the Expert (big wheel) version has 19" - and their fenders are flat where they bolt onto the triple clamp, so a 21" wheel, a 230 fender, and heavier rider (200+ lbs with gear) did really well considering the abuse it received! I ride a 450X and I was really impressed with her 230! A little more power would be nice, but isn't necessary for the woods we ride - I'm 6'1" so give me a taller seat and handlebar, and a little more suspension and I'd be perfectly happy trading my 450X for the 230!! I'm a little shocked I just said that....
Thanks again. I'll be lookin hard at an 85/150 fender. I'm more of a mid-weight rider. Yep, I've black-diamond-trailed a stock-jetted, stock-suspended CRF230F several times. You're not going at a race pace, but you do get to where you're going!
Posted 02 May 2012 - 09:02 PM
1. CR80/85 CRF150R brake rotor is small, need an adapter bracket or use the CR80/85/150R wheel. I adapted a twin piston XR250 caliper for more braking torque to the CR80 rotor.
2. Fender clearance; Run a metric size low profile tire (no 3.00x21). Cut 3/8" off the four fender mounts. Slide the fork tubes down inside the triple 3/8". Any Honda fender will fit. On edit: the air cooled fenders are shorter on the back side, make sure you bob a water cooled fender to let cooling air get to the engine.
3. Axles. the 150R and 230 use a 15mm axle, the CR80/85 12mm. The CR80/85/150R use the same hub with a 32mm bearing bore, the CR80/85 uses a 6201 bearing with a 12mm ID, the 150R uses a 6002 bearing with a 15mm ID. I converted my CR80 wheel for the 150R axle by swapping out the wheel bearings. The 230 uses a 6202 bearing with a 15mm ID.
4. The cast lug on the bottom of the CR80/85/150R sliders are the same with a product code of "GBF" cast on the side. The axle lugs are the same OD so you can bore the CR80/85 out to 15mm and use the 150R axle.
5. I've found six difference part numbers for base valves and 11 different part numbers for the mid valve/damper rod; varies by year and R or RB model.
6. Honda fork springs range from .26-.36kg. I'm running one .36 and one .32 for a .34kg rate. The owners manuals for each model describe the identifiers used to differentiate between springs; e.g. Honda .32kg springs have a notch ground on one end coil.
Edited by chuck4788, 07 May 2012 - 03:11 PM.








