Who out there has tried/owned both the Atlas neck brace and the Leatt club 2 or 3? Which one offers more protection? The Leatt's thoratic piece sits on your spine while the Atlas has 2 pieces to each side of your spine. And the Leatt doesnt touch your collar bone, but it looks like the Atlas does. Which would you say I should buy.  Im not worried about pricing.

If you are not worried, don't buy either of them until they are proven with independant testing.  You can't buy a helmet that isn't proven in a lab first.   Why purchase a quack device that is unproven, untested, unregulated and only relies only on emotional marketing ploys to get you to buy.

MNkayaker, on 30 April 2012 - 03:59 PM, said:

hasnt the leatt been tested though?

kxrider651, on 30 April 2012 - 04:12 PM, said:

Nope, none of them have been.  There isn't a single shred of data to be found.  Leatt says they test, in their state of the art lab, but they have never released any data or videos of tests.

MNkayaker, on 30 April 2012 - 04:35 PM, said:

intersting. is it the same with helmets? but i do know someone whos neck brace helped them form over extending their neck.

kxrider651, on 30 April 2012 - 04:38 PM, said:

With helmets there is SNELL  http://www.smf.org/  It's not like you can go and find your specific helmet on their site but you can find all of the specific details and methods they use when performing the tests.  That's good enough for me.  There needs to be a SNELL for neck braces too.

As far as your friends comment goes, that is just more emotional persuasion.  Unless you can see a video of the crash, there is no way to know.  Or you can use my experiance from last week.  I was 5th gear pinned doing about 60 mph in the sand dunes.  Decided to go around a tree that was in the middle of the dune, and there was a circle rut made by quads about 30 feet across and 5 feet deep, you could not see it, the sand just disappeared.  There was nothing I could do except jump head first over the bars as my front tire hit the other side.  I am perfectly fine except a bruised thigh.

my leatte has dig marks from big rocks right on the spine piece. When you go over the bars wouldnt you rather have something covering your spine?

i just bought an atlas today actually.. once it gets here and i ride with it ill let you know how it compares.. iv used the leatt and a star in the past (just broke my a star from a crash) thats why i bought the atlas, figured id give it a try

That's why I wear a pressure suit with full spine protection.

jjhubbard15, on 30 April 2012 - 05:07 PM, said:

Like I said earlier, there needs to be indepenent testing of neck braces.  Until then they are just a quack device, but some people will swear that they work. Those same people back in the day, would have also believed in blood letting with leaches.

MNkayaker, on 30 April 2012 - 05:21 PM, said:

In theory they work, just as knee braces and helmets do.

MNkayaker, on 30 April 2012 - 05:21 PM, said:

back in the day people had a hunch that cigarettes would kill you, no real proof, guess what years later they were right, no harm in being cautious

idk i wasnt the biggest beleiver in them either until this past weekend when i wadded up and wrecked my brace and my back/neck didnt have a single scratch on it or even stiff at all. not any proof or anything just something that made me a beleiver..

If you think a neck brace is going to do something more that lighten your wallet, fine.

I just think there should be some proven worth, and it would be easy to prove.  Why don't the manufacturers give us some proof?  Ask yourself that.

AJMAG247, on 30 April 2012 - 05:46 PM, said:

Once again, more emotional persuasion.

i know lol im not sittin here pushin them on anyone and like i said i wasnt the biggest beleiver but it changed my mind a bit.. seeing the brace and knowing nothing is wrong with my neck and back makes me beleive it did something with protecting me..

Edited by AJMAG247, 30 April 2012 - 06:03 PM.

Aren't car races required to wear that thing that holds their neck in place? Is there proof for that? And please I don't want this turning into a debate. Plus I have crashed hard and felt my old one work by keeping my neck from extending further.

Ive been flip flopping over these things for months now. Lots of good arguments. It does make me wonder why none of the manufacturers have tried to get some independent testing done or some sort of snell/dot certification. How come the AMA hasnt mandated them for all riders if they do what they claim they do?  I talked to a guy this weekend at a race that wears a simple neck roll mounted to his chest protector just to help protect his neck from sprains. I think it was an evs rc3. Cost him like $40.

kxrider651, on 30 April 2012 - 06:17 PM, said:

the "HANS" device. It is used to prevent basel skull fractures. It actually holds the helmet in place. It goes over the drivers shoulders and then the shoulder belts hold it down. Its then clipped to the helmet in 2 spots. That way the head cannot come crashing forward in a collision.

the less people being treated for neck injuries the cheaper health insurence is for everyone, just wear something. Michigan repealed the helmet law and now every time i see a biker with no helmet all i can think about is insurence rates going up