Next time paste the convo up there so I can see it. I dont know what the hell your talking about.
Albrecht weighs in on Stewart's future at Cycle News
Started by
HAV
, Apr 26 2012 06:28 AM
68 replies to this topic
Posted 28 April 2012 - 12:38 AM
longtimelurker, on 27 April 2012 - 01:23 PM, said:
Ok Mr Insider.
Oh and captain obvious I was talking about JS7 showing up to do outdoors in the back of a van. NO WAY that will ever happen. He won't spend his own money.
Edited by elpato, 28 April 2012 - 12:53 AM.
Posted 28 April 2012 - 07:08 AM
elpato, on 28 April 2012 - 12:38 AM, said:
no just Mr. Common Sense. They have some for sale at your local retailer go buy some... Sounds like you are out of it. hahahahaha
Oh and captain obvious I was talking about JS7 showing up to do outdoors in the back of a van. NO WAY that will ever happen. He won't spend his own money.
Oh and captain obvious I was talking about JS7 showing up to do outdoors in the back of a van. NO WAY that will ever happen. He won't spend his own money.
If, in fact, he's leaving JGR to ride with Suzuki, you can best believe that riding the outdoors is costing him a shitload of money. He could stay on the fat JGR contract, but he's not doing that. That move shows his commitment. What more do you want from the guy?
I think JS would show up to ride the nationals. It wouldn't be a box van though... it would be a box trailer hooked up to his diesel pusher. You best believe there would be some sponsor stickers all over it to help cover some expenses.
Chad didn't exactly ride entirely out of his own pocket either. He has sponsors who help pay the bills. And... that risk is good to convert the opinion of fickle fans, but there are some unemployed guys over at 22 motorsports right now. God Bless for going on his own, but its really risky.
Edited by mauricedorris, 28 April 2012 - 07:09 AM.
Posted 28 April 2012 - 10:52 AM
HAV, on 26 April 2012 - 06:28 AM, said:
I'm going to say this..
JGR and Stewart should simply dissolve that contract...PERIOD!!
BOTH parties were not prepared...EQUALLY BOTH!!
50/50..
It's over...You can take the long route and go through the courts, which is a mistake, because NO ONE WILL WIN!!
It's not about long-term deals or whatever because at the end of the day if a rider doesn't "feel safe" during races, you can't force him to ride something he doesn't feel safe on.
So Albrecht don't sit there and say you did your part and it's James' fault because he lacks "confidence".
Bikes are supposed to "inspire confidence".. Yours didn't!!
JGR don't become Public Enemy number #1..
You couldn't keep Brayton, Grant, and barely resigned Milsaps and then you LUCKILY get Stewart and now this is how you treat the situation by saying he lacked "confidence" like it's not our fault. He brought alot of exposure to your team and JGR products(oil, suspension products, bike services) and so forth. Your continued succes isn't based on Stewart, but what he already has done for the JGR motocross team. He gave Coy's future a boost. So to damage what Stewart gave to your future goals would be counterproductive...So to think that YOU did Stewart a favor is assinine. He helped you in good faith. The Champ stopped by, conducted business in good faith, services weren't delivered, Stewart is moving on because just like you, has goals to achieve, that were set LOONNGGG before you came in the picture.
Why you thru your guy under the bus like that is unprofessional is maybe the very reason why all along up until now why Stewart is seeking out a new team that can give him confidence...That's what teams do in sports!!
Inspire Confidence....
JGR and Stewart should simply dissolve that contract...PERIOD!!
BOTH parties were not prepared...EQUALLY BOTH!!
50/50..
It's over...You can take the long route and go through the courts, which is a mistake, because NO ONE WILL WIN!!
It's not about long-term deals or whatever because at the end of the day if a rider doesn't "feel safe" during races, you can't force him to ride something he doesn't feel safe on.
So Albrecht don't sit there and say you did your part and it's James' fault because he lacks "confidence".
Bikes are supposed to "inspire confidence".. Yours didn't!!
JGR don't become Public Enemy number #1..
You couldn't keep Brayton, Grant, and barely resigned Milsaps and then you LUCKILY get Stewart and now this is how you treat the situation by saying he lacked "confidence" like it's not our fault. He brought alot of exposure to your team and JGR products(oil, suspension products, bike services) and so forth. Your continued succes isn't based on Stewart, but what he already has done for the JGR motocross team. He gave Coy's future a boost. So to damage what Stewart gave to your future goals would be counterproductive...So to think that YOU did Stewart a favor is assinine. He helped you in good faith. The Champ stopped by, conducted business in good faith, services weren't delivered, Stewart is moving on because just like you, has goals to achieve, that were set LOONNGGG before you came in the picture.
Why you thru your guy under the bus like that is unprofessional is maybe the very reason why all along up until now why Stewart is seeking out a new team that can give him confidence...That's what teams do in sports!!
Inspire Confidence....
I just read the article and judging from your rant I think there may be a comprehension problem. Your taking the confidence statement way out of context. Read it again and see if you still feel the same way. I think he is more sympathetic to James not being 100% confident on the bike in all situations as the confidence issue he is talking about.............He even states that it works well sometime but not others. I see no welts on Stewies neck and trousers from being thrown under any bus. If the guy isn't living up to his end of he deal why not let it be known.
http://www.cyclenews...eremy-albrecht/
Posted 28 April 2012 - 10:57 AM
OTHG_DAVE_925, on 28 April 2012 - 10:52 AM, said:
I just read the article and judging from your rant I think there may be a comprehension problem. Your taking the confidence statement way out of context. Read it again and see if you still feel the same way. I think he is more sympathetic to James not being 100% confident on the bike in all situations as the confidence issue he is talking about.............He even states that it works well sometime but not others. I see no welts on Stewies neck and trousers from being thrown under any bus. If the guy isn't living up to his end of he deal why not let it be known. http://www.cyclenews...eremy-albrecht/
Posted 28 April 2012 - 11:47 AM
OTHG_DAVE_925, on 28 April 2012 - 10:52 AM, said:
I just read the article and judging from your rant I think there may be a comprehension problem. Your taking the confidence statement way out of context. Read it again and see if you still feel the same way. I think he is more sympathetic to James not being 100% confident on the bike in all situations as the confidence issue he is talking about.............He even states that it works well sometime but not others. I see no welts on Stewies neck and trousers from being thrown under any bus. If the guy isn't living up to his end of he deal why not let it be known.
http://www.cyclenews...eremy-albrecht/
http://www.cyclenews...eremy-albrecht/
I have to agree with you on this. If James was really as whiney as some of the people on here say and what Albrecht said was really out of line, then this interview would have sent him home crying and we all would have heard something from him by now.
Posted 28 April 2012 - 12:41 PM
T-Doshi9, on 28 April 2012 - 10:57 AM, said:
do you think that it would be ok for james to say the bike is crap? could he go in an interview and say that the yami is just not for him? why can teams do this? they have 100% of the power in the contract and thats not right. according to you they should be able to say anything they want... but can the riders? do you see js saying anythign negitive about the bike? now ask youself would you go into battle with someone that CLEARLY doesn't have your back no mater what? isn't js the one thats hitting the ground? isn't he the one with the injuries because of him trying to keep his end of the deal? so don't give me the crap about him not keeping his end of the deal! he has tried to ride the bike... its not working for him and he is the one that is getting hurt not jgr!
Yeah I'm not biting................. Your way to biased. If James said he wasn't comfortable on every track with his setup and they were working diligently to improve the situation through vigorous testing and were hoping to improve every race, it would have been no big deal. I still think your boy wasn't dissed by JGR, he's the one who cant be pleased no matter where he's at. He did better on Green pure and simple, but, Kawasaki saw the writing on the wall and put their eggs in RV's basket. Now they are both hurt and RD and KTM will shine. Sorry JS7 has ridden off into the sunset! Oh, he has been hitting the ground his whole career.
Edited by OTHG_DAVE_925, 28 April 2012 - 12:43 PM.
Posted 28 April 2012 - 01:46 PM
OTHG_DAVE_925, on 28 April 2012 - 12:41 PM, said:
Yeah I'm not biting................. Your way to biased. If James said he wasn't comfortable on every track with his setup and they were working diligently to improve the situation through vigorous testing and were hoping to improve every race, it would have been no big deal. I still think your boy wasn't dissed by JGR, he's the one who cant be pleased no matter where he's at. He did better on Green pure and simple, but, Kawasaki saw the writing on the wall and put their eggs in RV's basket. Now they are both hurt and RD and KTM will shine. Sorry JS7 has ridden off into the sunset! Oh, he has been hitting the ground his whole career.
Posted 28 April 2012 - 02:03 PM
HAV, on 26 April 2012 - 06:28 AM, said:
I'm going to say this..
JGR and Stewart should simply dissolve that contract...PERIOD!!
BOTH parties were not prepared...EQUALLY BOTH!!
50/50..
It's over...You can take the long route and go through the courts, which is a mistake, because NO ONE WILL WIN!!
It's not about long-term deals or whatever because at the end of the day if a rider doesn't "feel safe" during races, you can't force him to ride something he doesn't feel safe on.
So Albrecht don't sit there and say you did your part and it's James' fault because he lacks "confidence".
Bikes are supposed to "inspire confidence".. Yours didn't!!
JGR don't become Public Enemy number #1..
You couldn't keep Brayton, Grant, and barely resigned Milsaps and then you LUCKILY get Stewart and now this is how you treat the situation by saying he lacked "confidence" like it's not our fault. He brought alot of exposure to your team and JGR products(oil, suspension products, bike services) and so forth. Your continued succes isn't based on Stewart, but what he already has done for the JGR motocross team. He gave Coy's future a boost. So to damage what Stewart gave to your future goals would be counterproductive...So to think that YOU did Stewart a favor is assinine. He helped you in good faith. The Champ stopped by, conducted business in good faith, services weren't delivered, Stewart is moving on because just like you, has goals to achieve, that were set LOONNGGG before you came in the picture.
Why you thru your guy under the bus like that is unprofessional is maybe the very reason why all along up until now why Stewart is seeking out a new team that can give him confidence...That's what teams do in sports!!
Inspire Confidence....
JGR and Stewart should simply dissolve that contract...PERIOD!!
BOTH parties were not prepared...EQUALLY BOTH!!
50/50..
It's over...You can take the long route and go through the courts, which is a mistake, because NO ONE WILL WIN!!
It's not about long-term deals or whatever because at the end of the day if a rider doesn't "feel safe" during races, you can't force him to ride something he doesn't feel safe on.
So Albrecht don't sit there and say you did your part and it's James' fault because he lacks "confidence".
Bikes are supposed to "inspire confidence".. Yours didn't!!
JGR don't become Public Enemy number #1..
You couldn't keep Brayton, Grant, and barely resigned Milsaps and then you LUCKILY get Stewart and now this is how you treat the situation by saying he lacked "confidence" like it's not our fault. He brought alot of exposure to your team and JGR products(oil, suspension products, bike services) and so forth. Your continued succes isn't based on Stewart, but what he already has done for the JGR motocross team. He gave Coy's future a boost. So to damage what Stewart gave to your future goals would be counterproductive...So to think that YOU did Stewart a favor is assinine. He helped you in good faith. The Champ stopped by, conducted business in good faith, services weren't delivered, Stewart is moving on because just like you, has goals to achieve, that were set LOONNGGG before you came in the picture.
Why you thru your guy under the bus like that is unprofessional is maybe the very reason why all along up until now why Stewart is seeking out a new team that can give him confidence...That's what teams do in sports!!
Inspire Confidence....
What the heck has JGR done wrong? How were they not prepared? With their financial and mechanical resourses, they will be giving James his every wish when it comes to the bike. If he still can't ride it, I fail to see how that is JGR's fault??? James rode a Yammi last year and if he didn't like it then, why did he choose to do it again? If James doesn't like the Yammi, he should be saying to Yamaha "Fool me once (2011), Shame on you. Fool me twice (2012), shame on Me".
Albrecht didn't throw him under the bus in any way, shape, or form. James is his own worst enemy.
Posted 28 April 2012 - 02:56 PM
Funny how some people are so full off of crap on here! But i guess im the one who is bias!
Posted 28 April 2012 - 03:25 PM
T-Doshi9, on 28 April 2012 - 02:56 PM, said:
Funny how some people are so full off of crap on here! But i guess im the one who is bias!
I'm up for a civil "discussion" about things! In your opinion, how is it that the JGR team is at fault for JS' performance? Are they giving him sub-par performance parts? "Forcing" him to ride a bike that is dangerous? Ignoring his requests for parts, set-ups, etc? Do you think they don't listen to James? How is this season's poor performance the team management's fault?
Posted 28 April 2012 - 03:44 PM
T-Doshi9, on 28 April 2012 - 01:46 PM, said:
. Am i? You may want to look at the op post and his feeling on js7. Im saying if that was said bout me after not telling my feelings on the subject i would be pissed! Who gets interviewed more rider or team? He had alot more time to diss them but didnt! How do you not feel a team manager saying that about ANY rider of thiers isnt throwing them under the bus? Truth or not it shouldnt be said about their rider! It couldnt or wouldnt be tolorated about the team or a memmber of management would it? You can say what you want about this i would feel the same if it was said anout rv! Its a shitty thing to do to anyone on your team! I left the air force for something very similar that was going on with a fellow airman! No semce of team work and the feeling of being thrown under a bus is not a good way to work! Would you trust your life with someone like that? Why should the rider?
Yes, biased, yes you are. atc250r makes great points and you reply some people are full of crap because they don't agree with you. We all know who's full of crap........... Saying what? He asked him to ride and he crashed? Asked him to come and sign autographs and he didn't? James seems like a spoiled child to me. If he doesn't get his own way he packs up and goes home. If he used his head and rode smart and got what he could out of the bike without smashing his brains out he'd be in the title hunt. Remember, you gotta be in it to win it................ I guess no matter how many folks point out that JS7 causes his own problems you just won't see it, biased, yes you are. Oh, thanks for your service, sorry it ended like that for you.
Posted 28 April 2012 - 04:25 PM
atc250r, on 28 April 2012 - 03:25 PM, said:
I'm up for a civil "discussion" about things! In your opinion, how is it that the JGR team is at fault for JS' performance? Are they giving him sub-par performance parts? "Forcing" him to ride a bike that is dangerous? Ignoring his requests for parts, set-ups, etc? Do you think they don't listen to James? How is this season's poor performance the team management's fault?
Oth_. I am biased and your not... "james is a spoiled child to me" ???? Come on now... At least others have gave reasons of why they feel that way..you went off on how james is a baby and said im biased! Great job!
Posted 28 April 2012 - 04:36 PM
We'll see less and less of the boy as time goes by... He's all done in more ways than 1.
Posted 28 April 2012 - 04:48 PM
T-Doshi9, on 28 April 2012 - 04:25 PM, said:
And yes they forced him to ride new orleans! Jermeys words about why james was mad
Typical T-Doshi vortex BULLSHIT
Totally taken out of context. Go back and read the article and figure out what you left out? But please take off your Bubba Love glasses. I know your comprehension skills are better than that
Here I found it for you. Pull your head out of the T-Doshi Vortex and read the facts not what you hope is there
http://www.cyclenews...eremy-albrecht/
He wasn't going to race Houston [after Toronto], then I asked him to race Houston because we were still pretty good in the points, so I figured if we could finish second or third in the points with our team, that would be impressive and good for the team, so I just asked if he could do that and he said he would come and try. He rode practice; I think it hurt, but it wasn't terrible, so he was willing to race and when he wrecked in the main event, I think he was probably mad that... he says I made him ride or whatever - [actually] I don't know if he said that, but that's what I think by the way I saw his face, but he was cool after the race. I talked to him and he was sore, and I think he reinjured it and hurt some ribs. He was just banged up and needed some time. Last week, we were wondering if he was going to come [to New Orleans]. Then he said he tried to ride last Friday and he couldn't, not good enough to race, so he told us he wasn't racing there. We said at this point he's out of the points, so why rush back now? So that's why he's not here.
Edited by meyermetal, 28 April 2012 - 04:59 PM.
Posted 28 April 2012 - 05:01 PM
atc250r, on 28 April 2012 - 03:25 PM, said:
I'm up for a civil "discussion" about things! In your opinion, how is it that the JGR team is at fault for JS' performance? Are they giving him sub-par performance parts? "Forcing" him to ride a bike that is dangerous? Ignoring his requests for parts, set-ups, etc? Do you think they don't listen to James? How is this season's poor performance the team management's fault?
James listened, JGR listened.... they both say that they have been working at it. Its nobodys fault it didn't work out. James took the risk to try it again, now he's given up on that bike. Obviously, the more traditional bike is his preference.
I think James, early in his career, with time on his side, would choose to stick it out. But at this stage, there's really no time to figure out anything. He needs to make an aggressive move.
This whole situation is both good and bad. Everybody loses, some more than others. Its a wash, and therefore, a waste of time for all involved.
Posted 28 April 2012 - 06:21 PM
meyermetal, on 28 April 2012 - 04:48 PM, said:
Typical T-Doshi vortex BULLSHIT
Totally taken out of context. Go back and read the article and figure out what you left out? But please take off your Bubba Love glasses. I know your comprehension skills are better than that
Here I found it for you. Pull your head out of the T-Doshi Vortex and read the facts not what you hope is there
http://www.cyclenews...eremy-albrecht/
He wasn't going to race Houston [after Toronto], then I asked him to race Houston because we were still pretty good in the points, so I figured if we could finish second or third in the points with our team, that would be impressive and good for the team, so I just asked if he could do that and he said he would come and try. He rode practice; I think it hurt, but it wasn't terrible, so he was willing to race and when he wrecked in the main event, I think he was probably mad that... he says I made him ride or whatever - [actually] I don't know if he said that, but that's what I think by the way I saw his face, but he was cool after the race. I talked to him and he was sore, and I think he reinjured it and hurt some ribs. He was just banged up and needed some time. Last week, we were wondering if he was going to come [to New Orleans]. Then he said he tried to ride last Friday and he couldn't, not good enough to race, so he told us he wasn't racing there. We said at this point he's out of the points, so why rush back now? So that's why he's not here.
I have said many times..its not about js7 or jgr... I like jermey..always have.. I like jgr they bring alot to the sport.. I like js7 he is amazing on a bike!... The situation i have a problem with is a team manager bashing a rider instead of keeping that in house... You guys are the ones arguing with emotion! Atc250r has been the only one with any points that wasnt related to james and how you dont like him.. But you guys keep trying to say i feel the way i do because i like james... I like them all and im not the only one that is thinking this way.. HAV is a james hater but he fels the same! Clear your mind from hating james and look past it.. Im not talking about james im talking about the situation! The votex you talk about is u!
Posted 28 April 2012 - 07:11 PM
T-Doshi9, on 28 April 2012 - 06:21 PM, said:
. How did i take it out of context? I read it thanks for posting. Typical crap from you!
Albrecht forced him to ride? He didn't say that
Like I said......The vortex
Only see's what he wants to see. A true Bubba Blower
Posted 28 April 2012 - 07:27 PM
So your boss saying hey do this cause we are so close to something isnt them telling you to do something?
If you want to talk about the topic and have something to add feel free to respond... If not i will just take it as your normal trolling trying to take personal attachs and adding nothing! Move on dude!
If you want to talk about the topic and have something to add feel free to respond... If not i will just take it as your normal trolling trying to take personal attachs and adding nothing! Move on dude!
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