Depends on the brand you buy.  Some are wider than others.  The Fleetwood I rented worked just fine with a DRZ and ramp installed in their travel position.

Love this trailer for Colorado!!

Edited by Sundog, 04 May 2012 - 06:05 AM.

Chickenhauler, on 03 May 2012 - 09:25 PM, said:

I think you'll have to remove the side railings.  I don't know of a full size bike that is less than seven feet in length.

Just  checked, my TXC is 89" in length.

NC

Which model do you have????????

I thought they all were seven feet wide.  Maybe yours is 8' wide.

Colorado is where I am heading this summer.

NC

Sundog, on 04 May 2012 - 06:04 AM, said:

I rented this in Colorado.  It is a Fleetwood Evolution 2 model.  And the spec say it is 7' wide.  But as you can see the bike fit just fine.

Sundog, on 04 May 2012 - 06:32 AM, said:

A-ha!  Where in Colorado did you rent it?  Maybe I can call ahead and have one for when I arrive????

And another question for you or anyone else.  Do you think you could safely carry a 12' or 14' aluminum boat upside down on the trailer when it is closed?  Trying to maximize what we can take with us.

NC

http://www.coloradocamperrental.com/

They also have the Scorpion S2  there.  That is what I would rent.

I had the exact same trailer for about a year.  Mine was "Rockwood" branded but both "Fleetwood" and "Rockwood" made by same Forest River plant.  I sold it to convert a cargo trailer into a toyhauler, primarily becasue I got tired of folding up in the rain and having to dry everything out.

2 bikes will fit on the deck sideways, but you'll need to leave one of the ramps/sides behind (deck is only 7' wide, which is long enough to have both wheels supported by the deck, but not enough to have both sides on without angling the bike).  The back wheels will hand over the side of trailer about 6" or so (about what your mirrors stick out, but something to keep in mind in tight spots).  3 bikes could fit if you put the middle one backwards.

If you're interested in this to reduce loading height, keep in mind that the deck height on this trailer is nearly as tall (if not taller) than a truck bed.  Because of their marketing decision to make the trailer "off road ready" the deck winds up really high.

Watch your tongue weight on these.  I never believed the published tongue weight of 250-lbs on this, because this trailer with the deck empty would drop the read end of my Silverado at least twice as much as my 235-lb mass standing on the hitch ball.  I don't know if the tongue weight includes the propane tank(s) or battery, since it doesn't come from the factory with those.  With 1 bike and a little firewood (maybe 100-lbs) it would realy drop the back of my truck.

I would be very careful hauling anything on the top of the camper.  I talked to my dealer about installing a TV mount on the ceiling, and he showed me what the roofs are made of, and it's really just some styrofoam sandwiched between some FRP, with minimal strategic supports for the A/C.  Anything palced directly on the roof will cause damage.  The sides of the roof are plywood, so you could anchor a rack to the sides with a bar spanning across the top to hold a boat, but I don't know if I'd be comfortable doing so (a little slip while loading could require and expensive repair).

I've done lots of camping and started with a rockwood pop up currently have 27' travel trailer. my experience is that unless it is raining we never spend alot of time "in" the camper(mostly just to go to bed). I really enjoyed our pop up, but dont try to set it up the first time in the dark. my only suggestion for pop ups is to replace the mattresses with something better (stock they suck). My buddy goes jeepin alot and built a cargo trailer(like a carry all) with a small pop up turned sideways on the front jeep on the back w/ room to strap coolers, firewood, etc. Good luck with your choice a pop definetly has its advantages over a larger trailer

davemo94, on 04 May 2012 - 01:06 PM, said:

It depends on which ramp/side configuration one has.  The picture above contradicts your general statement.

It appears that the ramp storage on Sundog's trailer is a bit more outboard than the ones on my Baja. I just got back from buying the wheel chock and hardware that I needed to mount it, so if I get around to working on it tomorrow I will post some detailed pics of my setup.

Edited by kendall_smith, 05 May 2012 - 02:59 PM.

Sundog, on 05 May 2012 - 01:25 PM, said:

Agreed.  I was speaking to the Forest River (i.e. Fleetwood or Rockwood branded) version the OP originally asked about.

Also, wasn't a big deal to leave one of the ramps behind, only need both for quads or golf carts.

davemo94, on 04 May 2012 - 01:06 PM, said:

I was thinking you couldn't possibly be right and then checked out the photos again and it certainly appears the F-150 pictured has a similar tailgate height to the cargo deck on the trailer.  I could still probably ride a bike up the ramp onto the trailer as opposed to riding up a 2x12 into the bed of my truck.

NC

Hiya Numbercruncher, Whatsup? A couple general comment from a California boy. We rented one of those pop ups for a week a few years back to use on a SoCal desert trip. We tent camp and everyone thought a trailer would be a nice try. Well we tried the trailer once.

All is well until the wind blows……. Ever been in a SoCal desert wind? Popups and wind equals mess. I will admit, the pop up seemed to weather the wind better than a tent, but not by much. Maybe that trip the wind was a bit stronger than usual for the folks next to us had a van with a pop up roof and the wind tore the entire pop up off the van…. Yikes.

The pop up is so small. Can’t really do much in it but sleep. Difficult to even cook and/or eat a meal inside. The foam mattress that were in the one we rented were shall we say not much better than a board. I think it takes less time to set up/take down a tent than the pop up trailer. That was a hassle with the pop up. Every time you stop, it has to be set up and taken down, just like a tent.

We also tried a regular travel trailer, once. Too much work to keep it clean. Too much like “house” was the comment. Back to tents…. And you don’t have to find a sani-dump with a tent!!!

As you can guess, we are still using our pickup with a camper shell and a tent. Bikes on a bike trailer.

Hope you have a great trip. Always wanted to go to Colorado and ride. Have read and heard much about the area, but never been there. I’ll have to put this one on my bucket list.

NumberCruncher, on 07 May 2012 - 02:30 PM, said:

Another cool thing about the cargo deck is that if you have enough room to the sides of the trailer, you can always be loading/unloading pushing the bike forward.  Unlike a pickup where you load the bike in forward and then have to back it down, you can load the bike forward, then move the ramp to the other side of the trailer and actually roll/ride it off the forward side.  That's what I did the one time that I used mine a couple of weekends ago.

youngztr, on 07 May 2012 - 03:15 PM, said:

A few summers ago, I bought a used Coleman Sequoia pop-up and did some work to it.  First off, if you are concerned about battery life, convert every bulb to LED.  You may have to get creative, but its possible.  Next is to avoid using the built-in heater at all costs.  Spend a few bucks and get a buddy heater, or something similar, that is safe for in-door use.  Basically, anything catalytic and you're fine.  Then you'll need to consider your water needs.  If it has an electric pump or has a water heater, that will also suck up battery juice.  My model had a manual pump.  The new units will have a propane/electric fridge/freezer set up.  Mine did not (I didn't mind), so we packed a large cooler.  If its just the two of you, you'll have plenty of space for gear/food/etc inside, so no worries there.  We were a little crowded with 5 of us and all our crap.  Just me and the kids and we were fine, but the Mrs took up all the extra room with the crap that women "need."

The mods that I did minimized the electrical demands, so the 7yo battery would still last over two weeks (yard tested).  If you are serious about buying, this is a great way to go, especially considering storing a smaller trailer when not in use.  I would also recommend getting a long hose to attach the heater to a 5gal propane bottle instead of using the little green ones.  Heater will last 5-6 days with nighlty use.

Pops ups are great if you can reach your destination in less than a day. Will set up the pop up and keep it in the same location for the duration of your stay. Enjoy doing most of your camping/living outside. And are somewhere where the weather is fair.

So what is the difference from a tent?

Also, if you are on a multi-day trip, the trailer will need to be unloaded to allow for set up of the pop up for a nights stay along the way, and then reloaded in the morning. What are you going to do with all your stuff? Just something to think about. Oh, I know, motel for the night, right? Wait a minute, where is the spirit of adventure?

youngztr, on 09 May 2012 - 07:01 AM, said:

Got my wheel chocks mounted yesterday and it looks like two bikes are going to fit well.  It might even be possible to get a third on there with a lot of patience and some rigging.  I think I'll leave it as either a two bike hauler or one bike hauler though.

Here's some pics:







These are Harbor Freight wheel chocks and I think they will work really well.  A nice added feature is that they "trap" the front wheel when you push the bike into it, so you can just leave it there and climb down off the trailer to tie the bike down.  Another nice feature is that the front portion and the part behind the wheel remove easily by pulling a cotter pin and then pushing the rod that holds them on out.  This will allow the bikes to be loaded/unloaded from either direction.  My theory is that I can load a bike forward and then when I get to the unloading spot, pull the pins on the wheel chock, remove the parts that are in the way, and roll the bike off forward.  Should work pretty well.

I'll get some shots of the whole setup with the bikes loaded on Friday when we head out.

Hard to see in the pics, but I'm not seeing anything holding that E-track down?

Don't attach anything to the expanded mesh floor, bolt it through the framework.  That expanded metal will bend faster than a spaghetti noodle under pressure.