What's a better truck for the buck? 01-06 cummins or a 01-06 duramax?
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I put many, many miles on a 93 Dodge that was built into a wrecker. Rock solid reliable, but gutless. The upside was, it accelerated the same when empty as when towing a full size school bus.
To be honest, I think the school bus had better giddy-up-go than the truck pulling it.
Posted 20 April 2012 - 11:05 AM
Posted 20 April 2012 - 12:55 PM
The earlier duramax's(LB7) will get better mileage (17-20) than the LBZ(I average 15-17), but can get up to 20 on a straight highway cruise. I get 11mpg towing my 9klb toyhauler.
As for the front ends of the duramax being "weak", there are many inexpensive upgrades to beef them up and a pair of $80 tie rod sleeves will really help.
Dodges are known for their front end becoming sloppy and falling apart.
All this being said, it comes down to whether you want the nicer truck that had some injector issues, or you want the more reliable engine that had the crappy tranny behind it and truck around it.
AD2 165 for sure. How big of tunes are you running to necessitate a lift pump? or are you just doing it for extra filtration and better injector/cp3 life?
Edited by titan33, 20 April 2012 - 01:04 PM.
Posted 20 April 2012 - 01:38 PM
The Duramax Allison combo is quite tough. As mentioned the Allison is far more durable than the Dodge 4 speed auto. I don't really have any experience with a Duramax truck, but based on experiences with other GM trucks of similar vintage - they start nickel and diming you to death. Just constant little things that go wrong/break. Usually cheap and easy to fix, but annoying. The trucks generally remain pretty solid feeling, and the independent front suspension really is not that big of a deal.
IMO, for the range of trucks you are looking for, the 98-03 Super Duty trucks with the 7.3 Power Stroke can't be beat. Beefy front end components with real locking hubs up front. Engine is indestructible, the auto transmissions are far better than the Dodges, but not quite as reliable as the Allison. The ZF 6 speed manual transmission they had available is bullet-proof. Interior quality and craftsmanship is acceptable, not that great, but the rest of the truck more than makes up for it.
I don't personally own a vehicle from GM, Chrysler, or Ford - I've got an '89 FJ62 LandCruiser - so theres no bias here. These are just my observations based on from vehicles I've personally worked on.
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Posted 20 April 2012 - 07:06 PM
That Cummins in the Dodge is heavy duty. It didnt start life in a light duty truck application(2500 and 3500 models), it started life out in medium duty application, ie fire engines, service trucks, UPS delivery trucks, LTL trucks. The Cummins ISB is built like a tank. But as many said, the rest of the truck was a little lighter built. In 10, they beefed up the front suspension. Seems before, they just used a front axle from a gasser. The extra weight of that diesel engine is huge.
Posted 20 April 2012 - 09:13 PM
Not bashing the Ford, just pointing out-
The Ford ball joints are crap-50k and you're on borrowed time. Once the stockers are replaced, then you're good to go as long as you don't put cheap chinese junk in and it gets greased.
The ZF did have it's problems-synchro's. See more of this the more heavy towing the truck does.
To be honest, out of the three, I'd go with the Ford. But I've spent enough time working on them to know the weak points.
Posted 21 April 2012 - 11:28 AM
Chevy fan??? hardly...I owned one chevy over 20 years ago. Are you really going to tell me the older 466's are junk? I'm not bashing on the Cummins, everyone knows they build a good engine. I am simply saying the brainwashing you have been given (by yourself or others) is obvious.
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