Hey all,
OK ! I am opening up the battle grounds
cause I want to know what you all think
WHAT IS THE BEST 2 STROKE HONDA EVER MADE?
Was the best the early Honda Elsinore?
the Honda Odyssey Pilot ?
the 250R 3 wheeler or was the best the 250R 4wheeler
I could list all the Gens of bikes
But sadly I dont know all the Gens or the 2 stroke
So what is the Best 2 Stroke Honda ever built???
who had the best Power?
the best Handling?
the best suspension?
BEST 2 STROKE
Started by
band1t
, Apr 13 2012 06:29 PM
55 replies to this topic
Posted 13 April 2012 - 06:45 PM
The 89' CR250 would have taken the crown here, but the front forks were the first year upside down and had issues. I actually have a magazine from back then, it said Honda had a recall on the front forks for the 89' model 250. 93's were good too. strong engine, strong low end, great handling.
Posted 13 April 2012 - 06:49 PM
'93 CR250. Best chassis that ever graced a CR, with the sweetest engine Honda ever made. Later CR250s made more peak power, but none since have been the uber-flexible "power from idle all the way to an unlimited screaming top" engine that the '93 had.
That bike was a fork away from true greatness.
That bike was a fork away from true greatness.
Posted 13 April 2012 - 07:10 PM
I had a 93 & it was my favorite bike motor & chasis wise until I dialed in my 02 in both of those categories.
02-07 3rd gen cr250.
02-07 3rd gen cr250.
Posted 13 April 2012 - 07:18 PM
So your 02' has the same monster low end of the 93' Eh ?
When I rode a 93' CR250 back in 1998 I weighed 143 pounds. The bike had such a monster motor ( stock ) that I went down the trail once and came back up and gave the guy his bike back, told him it was way too much motor for me. It kept trying to loop it and buck me off the seat like a raging bull with just the slightest twist of the throttle .......1/4 throttle
I love my 06' though and can't wait to start up my 89' for the first time after I run some preliminary checks on it, the 89' was sitting for about 20 or so years and is in brand new condition.
When I rode a 93' CR250 back in 1998 I weighed 143 pounds. The bike had such a monster motor ( stock ) that I went down the trail once and came back up and gave the guy his bike back, told him it was way too much motor for me. It kept trying to loop it and buck me off the seat like a raging bull with just the slightest twist of the throttle .......1/4 throttle
I love my 06' though and can't wait to start up my 89' for the first time after I run some preliminary checks on it, the 89' was sitting for about 20 or so years and is in brand new condition.
Hondasforlife, on 13 April 2012 - 07:10 PM, said:
I had a 93 & it was my favorite bike motor & chasis wise until I dialed in my 02 in both of those categories.
02-07 3rd gen cr250.
02-07 3rd gen cr250.
Edited by Atieri, 13 April 2012 - 07:19 PM.
Posted 13 April 2012 - 07:19 PM
Chokey, on 13 April 2012 - 06:49 PM, said:
'93 CR250. Best chassis that ever graced a CR, with the sweetest engine Honda ever made. Later CR250s made more peak power, but none since have been the uber-flexible "power from idle all the way to an unlimited screaming top" engine that the '93 had.
That bike was a fork away from true greatness.
That bike was a fork away from true greatness.
95/96 were also great bikes....but the king of Hondas was the XR50. No one, I mean no one ever had so much fun on those bikes.
Edited by Pumpkin450sxf, 13 April 2012 - 07:24 PM.
Posted 13 April 2012 - 07:32 PM
Wanna bet ? My 1984 CR60R was more ( funner ) After I sold that little thing every kid in town bought it from one person after the other that I used to go riding with. And it would have pee'd on an XR50 
Pumpkin450sxf, on 13 April 2012 - 07:19 PM, said:
the king of Hondas was the XR50. No one, I mean no one ever had so much fun on those bikes.
Posted 13 April 2012 - 07:36 PM
Atieri, on 13 April 2012 - 07:18 PM, said:
So your 02' has the same monster low end of the 93' Eh ?
I said dialed in. Stock for stock the 93 motor was the best I've run to date. The 02 has an 03 PC ported cyl. & head mods & I'm running race gas so it's making more power across the powerband. I'd say the low end is very good but not better even after the mods.
When I rode a 93' CR250 back in 1998 I weighed 143 pounds. The bike had such a monster motor ( stock ) that I went down the trail once and came back up and gave the guy his bike back, told him it was way too much motor for me. It kept trying to loop it and buck me off the seat like a raging bull with just the slightest twist of the throttle .......1/4 throttle
I love my 06' though and can't wait to start up my 89' for the first time after I run some preliminary checks on it, the 89' was sitting for about 20 or so years and is in brand new condition.
I said dialed in. Stock for stock the 93 motor was the best I've run to date. The 02 has an 03 PC ported cyl. & head mods & I'm running race gas so it's making more power across the powerband. I'd say the low end is very good but not better even after the mods.
When I rode a 93' CR250 back in 1998 I weighed 143 pounds. The bike had such a monster motor ( stock ) that I went down the trail once and came back up and gave the guy his bike back, told him it was way too much motor for me. It kept trying to loop it and buck me off the seat like a raging bull with just the slightest twist of the throttle .......1/4 throttle
I love my 06' though and can't wait to start up my 89' for the first time after I run some preliminary checks on it, the 89' was sitting for about 20 or so years and is in brand new condition.
Posted 13 April 2012 - 08:19 PM
Total package? '87
For the best of the best? One that has not been built yet. The world is circular. 2 strokes will come back around. History will repeat itself again.
Look at the technology in the Evinrude Etech outboard motors. Now if we have EFI and injected 2 strokes with new frames and SFF air suspension, sky is the limit!
For the best of the best? One that has not been built yet. The world is circular. 2 strokes will come back around. History will repeat itself again.
Look at the technology in the Evinrude Etech outboard motors. Now if we have EFI and injected 2 strokes with new frames and SFF air suspension, sky is the limit!
Posted 13 April 2012 - 08:34 PM
I had a '84 and '87 back in the day, and now have a '95 and an '07. The '84 was weak and the '87 was electric smooth. The '95 is excellent with decent low end and strong mid/top, but the '05-'07 engine is one of the best after very little work.
Edited by CamP, 13 April 2012 - 08:36 PM.
Posted 14 April 2012 - 08:23 AM
1977 Honda CR125M Elsinore.... as a kid, I put mine through hell and back and it never gave me an issue.
1986 Honda CR125R.... I loved this bike. Was the best 125 you could get at that time and was a blast to ride.
1986 Honda CR125R.... I loved this bike. Was the best 125 you could get at that time and was a blast to ride.
Posted 14 April 2012 - 12:10 PM
band1t, on 13 April 2012 - 06:29 PM, said:
So what is the Best 2 Stroke Honda ever built???
I'm going to have to vote for the 2000 CR500.
Special place in my heart for that old steelie. Some of my best riding fun was on one of those at the Cali sand dunes.
Best engine in my opinion.
Posted 14 April 2012 - 12:15 PM
This is so subjective, because there are many bikes that I have never even roded.
I would have to have ridden every thing they've ever made, right off the showroom floor, stock, no tweaks ...
And THEN, it would still be my personal opinion.
But, I think the best STOCK 2-stroke they've made to date is the 2001 CR250.
- Raped ape motor that is good on MX tracks, SX tracks, trails, and driving up and down the street annoying neighbors.
- Aluminum frame is not going to rust, bend, crack ... (exempting idiotic feats of bravery!)
- Reliable as any other
- Disc brakes
- Moderate seat height (even though I'm tall)
- Can be bought for a reasonable price, and parts are not scarce
However, since we all tweak our bikes, I think the 02-07 bikes are a better canvas to work from.
If you have a 500cc engine, you go in search of a 3rd gen frame, not the 2nd gen.
I would have to have ridden every thing they've ever made, right off the showroom floor, stock, no tweaks ...
And THEN, it would still be my personal opinion.
But, I think the best STOCK 2-stroke they've made to date is the 2001 CR250.
- Raped ape motor that is good on MX tracks, SX tracks, trails, and driving up and down the street annoying neighbors.
- Aluminum frame is not going to rust, bend, crack ... (exempting idiotic feats of bravery!)
- Reliable as any other
- Disc brakes
- Moderate seat height (even though I'm tall)
- Can be bought for a reasonable price, and parts are not scarce
However, since we all tweak our bikes, I think the 02-07 bikes are a better canvas to work from.
If you have a 500cc engine, you go in search of a 3rd gen frame, not the 2nd gen.
Edited by 2strokes4me, 14 April 2012 - 12:16 PM.
Posted 15 April 2012 - 11:37 AM
d_mac, on 15 April 2012 - 05:31 AM, said:
93 CR250 is the best of them all, even todate. McGrath uses a 93 chassis with a 93 engine when he was racing the 95 CR250.
It was absolute domination by Honda-McGrath that time. Agree with Chokey that it was just a fork away from greatness.
I would buy one mint 93 if any offer come my way.
It was absolute domination by Honda-McGrath that time. Agree with Chokey that it was just a fork away from greatness.
I would buy one mint 93 if any offer come my way.
Wait a minute, wait a minute ... a '93 was a "great" bike for its TIME PERIOD.
Now, I'm not saying it is a bad bike, I'm just saying better CR's have popped out of Hondas womb since then.
RC on an '02-'03 would have spanked MC on a '93-'96 .............. particularly because MC had so much arm pump by then.
