If it were a 6.2 chevy i would say pick the chevy but 5.3 vs the 5.7 i would go with the tundra hands down. 5.3 just doesnt have the balls anymore...and you cant go wrong with a toyota.

But seriously you should look into the 6.2l chevy...we've pulled a 24' v-nose with 4 sleds in it and it didnt have any trouble.

i used to drive a 2011 tundra for work with the 5.7 and the double cab trd package. it was a sweet ride. in the winter i couldnt get over 15 with it. but if the conditions are right the tundra does average around 17 on the highway. i know this because i had that awesome little guage in the truck lol. but i did the math at the pump to, too make sure it wasnt lieing to me. i really like the way the tundra handles and it just feels good driving it however one annoying thing i encountered was when you have the windows down, you get this really annoying pressure pulsing in the cab. it really screws with your ears. i dont know if anyone else has noticed this but i sure did. i am a ford guy and i would definitely buy a tundra. so i guess that sorta makes me a tundra guy to ha. also the resale value of the tundra seems to be quite a bit higher then any of the other brands. if it were me i would go with a tundra. but you also cant go wrong with a ford either.  thats just my 2 cents.

MotoX178, on 15 April 2012 - 08:57 AM, said:

Find a different dealer.......

radar2515, on 15 April 2012 - 11:16 AM, said:

I've noticed that pressure pulsating in the cabin in my Tundra. As far as I can remember, it only happens when the two rear windows are down. Definitely kinda
weird though.

NorCal, on 15 April 2012 - 03:35 PM, said:

my 4runner does it wicked bad.........its the only thing I can say negative about the truck

I went through this a couple of months ago   ----   drive them all and dealt with several dealers --

I ultimately went with Ford.    I liked the Tundra over the Chevy because of the power,  but the dealer used some bait and switch tactics that ticked me off,  plus i spoke to another Tundra owner who advised he was getting real world mileage of maybe 13 combination driving,  which is worse than my '08 2500HD (6.0 gas, 6 speed)

I truly was interested in a Chevy or GMC also , but the prices i was getting quoted were darn close to a Tundra or a F-150 for what i perceived as a lesser equipped truck  (again -- a good dealer makes a lot of difference here though )  .

I went with a eco boost F-150.  Mines a 2wd with a 3:15 rear gear ratio.  setup like that,  mileage has been pretty darn good so far since winter gas is gone (between 19 and 21)  -- but i was talking to a guy at the pump one day with a EB 4wd model who said he was getting more like 15

I usually drive my trucks until they are close to worthless anyway due to the miles, so i am not that worried about resale value.   Toyota makes a darn nice truck,  but i mentally made the choice to go Chevy or Ford  ---  and did.
    I'm also keeping my 08 2500 in case i ever have to tow anything heavy -- it has 125k on it and has been maintenance free except for a power window motor .

I do hope that anyone reading this thread does not seriously think   ANY   4x4 new gasoline full size pickup truck actually delivers meaningfully better MPG than any of the others??
Like one brand has some magic engineering pixy powder that gives it significantly better mpg?  
It does not happen.

Many reasons to pick brand A over brand B..........but they all  average about 15mpg  driven realistically hard with winter  blend gasoline.

22 mpg with and ecoboost 4x4??    Who actually believes that?

But hey.....it said so on the window sticker




BB.

skisnh, on 13 April 2012 - 03:30 AM, said:

I'm with Sk, They owe us and they owe all the prior GM and Chrysler owners that had any "warranties" flushed in the same exchange that robbed all the bondholders and rewarded all the union members.I don't give a crud what any of you union members on this board say.  It was robbery and throwing out contract law to do it.  I would much rather patch together a 20 year old Ford then spend a nickle on either of those.I have owned Chevy, Dodge, Plymouth and yes even Fiat.  None of them have any quality and now we know none of them have any integrity.

Leardriver, on 15 April 2012 - 06:28 AM, said:

The Tundra is made in San Antonio Texas and has 80% US parts content too.

Edited by toyota_mdt_tech, 15 April 2012 - 07:35 PM.

In my opinion, I think you will do fine with either Chevrolet or the Tundra. Its going to come down to your personal preference.

I am a huge fan of Top Gear on BBC.  Please find and watch the Top Gear Polar Special before you decide to buy the Chevy.  They took two Tundras ( modified of course ) and drove to the North Pole.  Would anyone try that in a Chevy?

Not so much.

The choice between GM and Toyota is an easy one for me, Toyota every time. I will not support the UAW leaches.

Buy a F-150 and forget about the other 2.

RBRXRMAN, on 15 April 2012 - 07:58 PM, said:

No.  A modified Ford, Yes.

RBRXRMAN, on 15 April 2012 - 07:58 PM, said:

Would anyone try that in a Chevy?


Yes,  -- no prolem at all.    I've had a 2500HD gas burner for a few years and a ton of miles.    I have confidence in the brand.  (even though i bought a Ford instead -- its not for any political reasons,  -- i like the idea of the Ecoboost concept and i bought into it -- plu)

But then again, its doubtful you would have any problems with any of them , for that haul if they are modified for the occasion    (what modifications ?  bigger fuel tanks and things?  I would assume a publicity stunt for Top Gear would also involve support vehicles if needed as well )
Top Gear could substitute the Tundra with a Chevy/Gmc, dodge, Nissan, Ford and get similar results as long as the vehicles are in equivalent condition to start with no doubt.
While building a house, i worked with subcontractors who drove trucks from all brands that all looked like they had been beat unmercifully with shovels or something,  plus getting trailers in and out of muddy construction sites needs 4wd at times, plus owners who are not necessarilly sticklers for routine maintenance --- guys who pull heavy skid steers and small dozers with half tons ---------  you name it, all kinds of abuse.

     All the brands work pretty good, and i've seen enough of all brands that  are over 200k that live their lives at payload capacity with tools in the bed plus pulling heavy trailers  to convince me all the   casual/light duty user needs to do is pick his color and what logo he wants on the grille and it will probably do fine for years

DMC707, please post the video on youtube when you are done.  Can't wait to see it.

RBRXRMAN, on 16 April 2012 - 05:44 PM, said:

I dont live in cyberspace brother, --- i just visit occasionally.    Most of the guys who use the piss out of these trucks don't either

DMC707, on 16 April 2012 - 08:46 PM, said:

I wonder if some of the guys who use the piss out of the trucks have an opinion about getting royally screwed ( as a taxpayer, assuming they do pay taxes ) by a government that made a decision to redistribute wealth from bond owners such as retirement funds etc. to a group of union members who had contributed just as much to the financial ills of the company whose value they raided to enrich themselves against 200 years of contract law precedent?I do hope you don't mind if some of us out here in cyberspace and in the real world have an opinion and reason for ourselves about which companies are crooks and which ones have integrity.  You drive what you like, your dollars go to support everything about the companies you buy from.I will never pay money for a chevy or a chrysler product.

RBRXRMAN, on 16 April 2012 - 09:12 PM, said:

The brand debate/what's better or worse removed from the equation, I have to agree with this 100%.

I have two GM products currently, but they were bought long before the bailouts, and they will be the last one's I own.

I wouldn't own a Chrysler product again, bailout or not.

Everyone seems to be against GM and Chrysler because of the bailout, and I agree, it was a bunch of B.S.. I won't support them either but it is more because of the UAW than the bailouts, and don't forget FORD is not free of the UAW, so I won't support them either.

I looked at both vehicles.  Up here in Canada the Chev is about 35k for the 4 door 4 x4 the tundra crew cab is about 43.5 k.... thats a lot of room for error... I found the tundra way different to sit in that any PU I have ever driven before... your up high but has a very car type feel.  I don't like the Tundra's plastic mud flaps... if you ever lifted that thing and added bigger tires you could never add larger mud flaps and up here you'd destroy your body work in a couple of years...just sayin something to consider...

However, Chevy, GM or GMC are all the same to me... I have always like them all but do I think they are built the same as Tundra NO!  Never mind fuel economy but will the quality of the TUNDRA make up for the 8k difference in price?????  If I could answer that question I'd have pulled the trigger on a new vehicle already.  Now  we have a new guy at work... claims he is an x Toyota tech says he never saw a Tundra in a shop for anything other then oil and breaks!  He's a beer drinking buddy but you know how that goes... just likes a fishing story!

I like the ford too but I heard it's built in Mexico???... no offence to anyone Mexican but I don't believe these vehicles have the same quality control.  My last 02 dodge was built in Mexico... and except for the engine (diesel) the thing is worse for nickle and diming me then my first truck a 1992 chevy s-10 2.8l vs .. so I won't go that route anymore!

I like the fact that Toyotas are built and produced in NA... I believe we have to support that as our economies are tied together... anyone know where the F250 is built?  Seriously looking at going to the 6.2l if I am gonna pay 44k for a Tundra...