Well I have been looking around a bit at new trucks and a little torn between these 2.  The plan right now is to wait till about mid July before purchasing if I do decide to go this route but I like to plan ahead.  I'm looking at 4wd in both trucks with extended cabs, no crew cabs.  As for engines 5.3l vortex in the Chevy and 5.7l in the Tundra.  The issue here is the damn horrible gas mileage the Tundra gets or this decision would be a lot easier.   Both are currently offering 0% financing for 60/72 months and Chevy is also doing an extra $2,000 on trade ins.  Then with Chevy I also have a supplier discount due to my employer.  I guess my question is how is the quality of the newer Chevy trucks? I know from my past experiences with Toyota trucks that quality and reliability are not a concern.  I have also been hearing good things about the latest generation of Silverados but I would like to hear what some of you have to say.

As for use this will be my daily driver and used to haul bikes all over the state to ride and race.  I do ride a street bike in the summer so the truck will see a lot less use during the warmer months.  I currently do not tow any trailers but that could change.

The Tundra Double Cab will have 4 full sized doors with a 6.5 foot bed. The Silverado will have the suicide doors. Not a huge deal, but it's something to consider.

Also, the gas mileage isn't too terrible as long as you don't lift and/or add bigger tires on the Tundra. I average about 15-16 MPG on my 5.7L, Double Cab, 4wd. There are a lot of guys on here that will exaggerate their MPGs for some reason or another. I know a guy with an Ecoboost F150 and his MPG figures aren't even much better than what I'm getting.

Hands down the Tundra is better. I mean just look at the front end of the chevy and try to hold your lunch down.

But judging by the way you intend to "pay" for the vehicle, you should not be looking at any full size 4x4  PU IMHO.

Gasoline could easily go to 5$ or more per gallon .......can you live with a 120$ fill up?

Printing dollars for a commodity (oil) that is  priced world wide in dollars  only invites wicked inflation........and we are doing this big time.

And since it is highly unlikely we will see fiscal control out of Washington, things will only get worse.



BB

I wouldn't ever consider owning a Toyota truck, but that's just me. The Chevy with the 5.3 is a great, reliable package that will offer decent gas mileage. The 5.3 won't feel as fast as the Tundra with the 5.7, but it shouldn't as it is just GM's midsized V8.

Read this, might change your mind about the Dodge,  if you can wait a few more months...

I was really impressed with everything they changed

http://www.allpar.co...m/2013-ram.html

Edited by Bigoldbeef, 12 April 2012 - 05:00 PM.

Bigoldbeef, on 12 April 2012 - 05:00 PM, said:

id hit it!

Bigoldbeef, on 12 April 2012 - 05:00 PM, said:

Saw the press release and it does sound good.  I would have a hard time buying a Dodge product though.

BlackBuzzard, on 12 April 2012 - 04:48 PM, said:

Already paying to fill up my current truck this would be no change, with the Chevy it actually gets better mpg.  As for $5+ gallon for fuel people have been claiming that for the last few years.  It hits $4 at a high around here then trickles down and repeats this cycle every year.  I don't see $5 a gallon happening anytime soon, if it does o well there will be bigger problems for everyone.  I don't really need to turn this thread into a political debate though that is what Town Square is for.

They claim that that 2013 dodge gets 20% better fuel economy than the 2012 model, and thats for the v6 and v8

MotoX178, on 12 April 2012 - 05:19 PM, said:

Fixed that for ya!

Bigoldbeef, on 12 April 2012 - 05:45 PM, said:

Ford made some big claims about their eco-boost too.  Turns out they were off the mark a bit.

Fuel mileage claims....I take them with a bit of salt, like fishing stories and big bucks that got away.

I wouldn't by either a GM or Dodge until they pay back the billions they stole from the tax payers.

I've never had a "full size" Toyota.

I had a 1999 (first year of the new body / new engines) Chevy Silverado 1/2 ton extended cab. My son is still driving that truck and it currently has over 250,000 miles on it. I've had to have a few things repaired on it but it had 200,000 miles on it when I had to start doing repairs. Gets a little over 18 mpg normal driving, between 20 and 21 mpg on interstate as long as you keep it to 75mph or less. IMO, it's been a very good truck. FWIW: LS, 2 wheel drive, 4.8 liter V8, auto, 3.42 rear end.

My current truck is an '08 Silverado 1/2 ton extended cab. LT, 2 wheel drive, 5.3 liter V8, auto, 3.42 rear end. Has right at 72,000 miles on it. No problems at all so far. I get ~ 18 mpg normal driving. Even though I have made numerous trips on the interstate, I've never checked the mileage. It doesn't do too bad though. I'm ususally running 75+ mph and sometimes towing a 6' X 10' enclosed trailer.

I ordered a new truck February 29th to replace my '08. 2012 Silverado 1/2 ton, crew cab, LT, 2 wheel drive, with Max Trailering Pack (6.2 liter, 9.5" rear end with 3.73 gear ratio, and some other things).

If I weren't satisfied with Chevy trucks my last 3 new vehicle purchases, plus 1 on order for a total of 4, wouldn't have all been Chevrolets. (In addition to the above 3 pickups I also had a 1995 Suburban.) I have been very satisfied with them.

Edited by David_L6, 13 April 2012 - 06:46 AM.

skisnh, on 13 April 2012 - 03:30 AM, said:

Gm has already repayed their government loan by the way

Edited by angstroma2004, 13 April 2012 - 06:18 AM.

Chickenhauler, on 12 April 2012 - 08:47 PM, said:

One of the f-150's does get 23 mpg highway, but it is the 3.7l 6 cylinder

angstroma2004, on 13 April 2012 - 06:18 AM, said:

Absolutely they have NOT They still owe like 25 billion dollars....Thats BILLION with a "B"

skisnh, on 13 April 2012 - 07:38 AM, said:

ANd I'm not a GM hater.....Current Truck is an 03 2500hd

angstroma2004, on 13 April 2012 - 06:18 AM, said:

No they didn't in fact, they used Visa to pay off Mastercard....but the taxpayers are the one's who issued both cards.

Read more: http://www.foxnews.c.../#ixzz1rw9HOIdq
General Motors announced this week that it repaid its multibillion-dollar taxpayer-backed TARP loans. GM even bragged that it was able to “repay the taxpayers in full, with interest, ahead of schedule, because more customers are buying [GM] vehicles.” There was great fanfare, including expensive, around-the-clock GM TV commercials nationwide. But, the hype is not the reality. In fact, GM did not repay the loans with money it earned from selling cars. Instead, GM repaid the TARP loans with money it withdrew from another TARP fund at the Treasury Department.

The day before the GM story broke, Neil Barofsky, the government TARP watchdog, testified before the Senate Finance Committee. He explained that GM did not use earnings to repay its TARP debt. The April quarterly report to Congress from his office stated: “The source of funds for these quarterly [debt] payments will be other TARP funds currently held in an escrow account.”

GM filings with the SEC reveal that GM was paying 7 percent interest on a $6.7 billion TARP debt. The filings also confirm that the source of funds for GM’s debt repayments was a multibillion-dollar TARP-funded escrow account at Treasury; that means it was taxpayer money — not earnings.

The Tundra will get 19 mpg in a 4wd if you can slow it down to 65. That is painfully slow to me, too, but it really does matter. At 75 mph, 16.5 mpg. Still light years better than full size trucks from 15 years ago.

The Silverado 5.3 will edge it out in the gas mileage category, but just barely. Maybe 1/2  better highway mpg. The Tundra powerplant is fantastic. Beastly powerful, and silky smooth.

The Silverado has always had a great ride, but the Tundra is no slouch. I have had both, and the Tundra has a feel of quality that is hard to beat.

It is currently the only American made half ton. About half of the F150's are built here, but all of the Tundras are.

tundra is a great truck but for the mpg you can drive a 3/4 ton that will do more work, just depends on what you want,

The Tundra window sticker claims EPA estimate of 13 city 17 highway.  It seems a lot of owners claim around 16 mpg overall which doesn't seem as bad.  Now on the Chevy the EPA estimate is 15 city and 21 highway with most owners claiming 18 mpg overall.

I did go check out the Fords yesterday and they didn't have a single F-150 on the lot under $37k and the warranty is not nearly as good as the Chevy or Toyota.  Also they had 1 Eco-boost and the EPA was the same as the 5.3l in the Chevy.   I'm not in a rush to buy and will be looking around for a bit to get what I want.  Hopefully more info on the 2013s will come out soon.