Beta "lightweight"


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  • YHGEORGE

Posted 02 April 2012 - 01:08 PM

#1

Still hoping to get some info on the alleged and displayed XC or mx model RR. Just a tease or is anything coming?

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  • hawaiidirtrider

Posted 02 April 2012 - 03:26 PM

#2

I just saw my buddy  who bought Cody Webbs Beta 350 from his last season. We were at a poker run at our riding park in Kahuku yesterday . He says the bike is fast. He's been using it for motocross. He's a local vet rider and fast mx rider too... It overheated yesterday a couple of times but this poker run had some tough slow sections for longer periods of time too. The bike looks great..It' was all dirty and all when I saw it at the finish. Why wait for the xc?. Just buy an rr . You might as well get a light and stuff. ..although my friend is racing his just as it is.  It's just a number plate and no skid plate for difference from what I can see and you'll still probably have to redo suspension a little...even while I'm pretty sure my friend's just riding it as it is .

Edited by hawaiidirtrider, 02 April 2012 - 03:46 PM.


  • KimDN

Posted 01 May 2012 - 09:18 AM

#3

I got the "sister" bike to the one that hawaiidirtrider is talking about, Cody Webb's practice bike '11 350RR.  Before Beta sent it here, they completely restored the bike, with new wheels/plastics/frame even!  Almost everything was new or near new.  It is a stock bike again, except for gearing and radiator hoses.

The A course on the "Poker Run" that hawaiidirtrider is talking about was a tough one.  I rode some of that course the following week, not easy!   I'd expect any four stroke to be steaming on that course if it didn't have a fan.  My KTM300 had it's fan going  a whole bunch.

Anyway, I got to ride the Beta for the first time this past Sunday.  It was a wet muddy nasty mess, not the best maiden voyage for any bike.  I was truly impressed with the chugging power down low and the great mid-top that the 350RR had!   I made it up some slimy rooty crappy hills that I had no business making it up at the speed I was going, but the Beta chugged me right up.  Later on some open jeep roads It was great at speed.   I never touched a clicker on the stock suspension, I think I really only needed a few clicks in the front and that would have made it perfect for me.

What I'm saying is that although this is an RR version, it works as an XC or XCW just as well.  No need to wait for any other versions of this bike.

  • YHGEORGE

Posted 02 May 2012 - 03:47 PM

#4

Thanks guys. I'll be at the LA natl enduro this weekend and hope Beta has a presence there and I can see some equipment. I really want a 350RR. If not, I'm going another direction.

Edited by YHGEORGE, 02 May 2012 - 03:51 PM.


  • hawaiidirtrider

Posted 02 May 2012 - 07:25 PM

#5

When I saw lightweight i thought there was some info on the 2 stroke Beta enduro that TBM mentioned. I haven't heard or seen anything beyond the rumours.

  • ballisticexchris

Posted 05 May 2012 - 03:09 AM

#6

hawaiidirtrider, on 02 May 2012 - 07:25 PM, said:

When I saw lightweight i thought there was some info on the 2 stroke Beta enduro that TBM mentioned. I haven't heard or seen anything beyond the rumours.

Unless you are thinking of a 200 2T, don't get all misty eye on a "light" 2 stroke. My 300 fully loaded with fuel as you see here is right at about 265lbs.
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In order to have a light 2T you have to keep it stripped of all protection and leave the stock fuel cell on. Handguards, skid plate, damper,
UHD tubes, flex bars, desert tank etc all add up to a pork chop with gravy on any bike!

Edited by ballisticexchris, 05 May 2012 - 03:10 AM.


  • YHGEORGE

Posted 05 May 2012 - 10:02 AM

#7

Understood, but it is always best to start with the lightest of the species. Beta is behind the competition regarding the weight of their 4stk. And they had a supposed "lightweight" version at one of the euro shows. No info since. That 300 looks well dialed in.

Edited by YHGEORGE, 05 May 2012 - 10:03 AM.


  • hawaiidirtrider

Posted 05 May 2012 - 11:26 AM

#8

ballisticexchris, on 05 May 2012 - 03:09 AM, said:

Unless you are thinking of a 200 2T, don't get all misty eye on a "light" 2 stroke. My 300 fully loaded with fuel as you see here is right at about 265lbs. Posted Image In order to have a light 2T you have to keep it stripped of all protection and leave the stock fuel cell on. Handguards, skid plate, damper, UHD tubes, flex bars, desert tank etc all add up to a pork chop with gravy on any bike!
..Ya just heard rumours of a 2 stroke Beta enduro . That's lighter than a 4 stroke enduro is all. Your 2 stroke looks like it's ready to travel long distances.. You are fuel prepared!

I have my trusty old 01 cr that I love . At some point I have to upgrade to a new 2 stroke so I'm keeping tabs of what comes up. Right now the ktm and husaberg 300 are in the top slot unless I make a hybrid bike of some sort.


Edited by hawaiidirtrider, 05 May 2012 - 11:34 AM.


  • ballisticexchris

Posted 05 May 2012 - 05:07 PM

#9

hawaiidirtrider, on 05 May 2012 - 11:26 AM, said:

..Ya just heard rumours of a 2 stroke Beta enduro . That's lighter than a 4 stroke enduro is all. Your 2 stroke looks like it's ready to travel long distances.. You are fuel prepared!

I have my trusty old 01 cr that I love . At some point I have to upgrade to a new 2 stroke so I'm keeping tabs of what comes up. Right now the ktm and husaberg 300 are in the top slot unless I make a hybrid bike of some sort.




I see you have a weedeater fest going on! All joking aside, It doesn't get much better than a bulletproof CR and YZ. Yea the 300 is dialed in for "supertanker" rides. I can do an easy 100 miles.

I just test rode a 520 today (while ironing out the details on mine). All I can say is WOW!! This thing has at least as much toque as my XR650R did!  Even with stock gearing it just keeps pulling hard (even when a gear or two high)! According to my lift test, it's right in the hunt for lifting over nasty trails. I am thinking it will end up at about 270 or so when the desert tank is full.

I made a few changes in what I'm getting for it. Most notably, I decided to go with UHD tubes instead of the Tubliss system. I'm too chicken to try out that system when I will be 50+ miles from civilization.

  • weantright

Posted 08 May 2012 - 11:37 AM

#10

You will be lucky if your 520RS comes in under 280 the way you spec’ed it. Why do you think you will be under 270lbs? Tubeless system, do you have issues with alot of flats?

  • hawaiidirtrider

Posted 08 May 2012 - 12:59 PM

#11

weantright, on 08 May 2012 - 11:37 AM, said:

You will be lucky if your 520RS comes in under 280 the way you spec’ed it. Why do you think you will be under 270lbs? Tubeless system, do you have issues with alot of flats?

What's a few pounds between friends. It's a guestimation . I'd guess it's around the same as my Beta is and I've been charging the harder stuff. So my bike stock wet with blinkers and half a tank of gas was 262 on the scales when I took mine down . So 10lbs more isn't that far off for some guards a big tank etc.. It's around there anyway. I went riding yesterday and had to carry here and there. It's not that bad ..until you ride a nice light 2 stroke to compare against. Actually as long as you are on the bike riding the Beta is awesome.


Edited by hawaiidirtrider, 08 May 2012 - 01:00 PM.


  • husky34

Posted 08 May 2012 - 03:40 PM

#12

hawaiidirtrider, on 02 May 2012 - 07:25 PM, said:

When I saw lightweight i thought there was some info on the 2 stroke Beta enduro that TBM mentioned. I haven't heard or seen anything beyond the rumours.
Yo Hawaii..... What is the aluminum piece covering the right side upper fork on your CR? I take it is a gaurd but never seen one like that before. Is it custom?

  • weantright

Posted 08 May 2012 - 03:41 PM

#13

My guess is 280-290, high end if he adds all the options he listed. He didn't just add guards! As long as the bike keeps moving, weight is not really felt,,, well unless you have rode a light bike. Either case it's going to be a great bike.

  • hawaiidirtrider

Posted 08 May 2012 - 05:50 PM

#14

husky34, on 08 May 2012 - 03:40 PM, said:

Yo Hawaii..... What is the aluminum piece covering the right side upper fork on your CR? I take it is a gaurd but never seen one like that before. Is it custom?

Machete sheath..hard to figure a good place to put that so it's out of the way. The trails get closed out with growth if we don't open them. Here's how a bunch of guys have their setups.. Not everyone just the deeper trail guys that help cut and keep maintenance. I don't have it mounted on my Beta yet just on my cr. I take it off for races etc but for regular riding it helps alot. The honda one's easy 'cause you can just stay on your bike pull out your machete  and hack  a couple times for the simple ones to keep the trail open...then keep on riding.



Here look here for ex. if not enough people ride certain places it just closes out and you have to open it up again.


Edited by hawaiidirtrider, 08 May 2012 - 05:54 PM.


  • hawaiidirtrider

Posted 21 May 2012 - 04:24 AM

#15

YHGEORGE, on 02 April 2012 - 01:08 PM, said:

Still hoping to get some info on the alleged and displayed XC or mx model RR. Just a tease or is anything coming?


Here's your Beta Motocross bike.. It's shown up on this site for now.. I rather have the 18" rear wheel so I'd rather just get the RR and take off the lights.. unless they worked on the motor a bit.

http://www.betamotor.../betaenduro.php

I don't know I think maybe this one's a better one to get..

http://www.americanbeta.com/node/770

Edited by hawaiidirtrider, 21 May 2012 - 04:58 AM.


  • ballisticexchris

Posted 21 May 2012 - 06:38 AM

#16

weantright, on 08 May 2012 - 03:41 PM, said:

My guess is 280-290, high end if he adds all the options he listed. He didn't just add guards! As long as the bike keeps moving, weight is not really felt,,, well unless you have rode a light bike. Either case it's going to be a great bike.

I will weigh it like I do all my bikes. You might be right. With my luggage and full tank of fuel just under 300lbs sounds about right. I don't really trip out on weight as long as it's under 300 lbs. My 650R was right at about 325lbs, kick start only, and I could do single track all day long with it.

I know a lot of guys who are really concerned with weight. I have ridden 125 and 200 "superlights". Lots of fun until you are blazing through rocks at high speed or trying to climb a huge, steep, deep sand hill.

One other thing I forgot to mention is I will be carrying this (6 or 10 liter) full of fuel for the long trips:
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And in a month or two this:
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I'm still nervous about the fuel range with the desert tank. 120 miles or so is not much when blasting through the desert. When you hit the deep sand you really start guzzling fuel! I'm not wanting to stash fuel as I have done in the past.

  • ballisticexchris

Posted 21 May 2012 - 06:43 AM

#17

hawaiidirtrider, on 08 May 2012 - 05:50 PM, said:

Machete sheath..hard to figure a good place to put that so it's out of the way. The trails get closed out with growth if we don't open them. Here's how a bunch of guys have their setups.. Not everyone just the deeper trail guys that help cut and keep maintenance. I don't have it mounted on my Beta yet just on my cr. I take it off for races etc but for regular riding it helps alot. The honda one's easy 'cause you can just stay on your bike pull out your machete  and hack  a couple times for the simple ones to keep the trail open...then keep on riding.



Here look here for ex. if not enough people ride certain places it just closes out and you have to open it up again.



Man!! That looks to be super duper fun!! Rain forest riding. You are lucky to have such good riding. Now that kind of riding would be PERFECT for the lightest bike possible.

  • YHGEORGE

Posted 21 May 2012 - 09:42 AM

#18

hawaiidirtrider, on 21 May 2012 - 04:24 AM, said:

Here's your Beta Motocross bike.. It's shown up on this site for now.. I rather have the 18" rear wheel so I'd rather just get the RR and take off the lights.. unless they worked on the motor a bit.

http://www.betamotor.../betaenduro.php

I don't know I think maybe this one's a better one to get..

http://www.americanbeta.com/node/770
Thanks, that factory Edition model looks to be a great pkg..

  • ballisticexchris

Posted 21 May 2012 - 03:05 PM

#19

YHGEORGE, on 21 May 2012 - 09:42 AM, said:

Thanks, that factory Edition model looks to be a great pkg..

That's a lot of bike for the money! I bet that 350 is set up for single track heaven. Too bad more people don't know what they are missing out on. These Betas are light years ahead of anything the japan or KTM has to offer as a "full package".

  • happy seal

Posted 21 May 2012 - 04:29 PM

#20

ballisticexchris, on 21 May 2012 - 06:43 AM, said:

Man!! That looks to be super duper fun!! Rain forest riding. You are lucky to have such good riding. Now that kind of riding would be PERFECT for the lightest bike possible.

I'de be afraid of the Pythons, Scorpions, and flesh eating Parrots!




 
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