2 Stroke MX Bike To Trail Bike? Worth It?
Posted 30 March 2012 - 10:33 AM
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Posted 30 March 2012 - 11:14 AM
CDBiker220, on 30 March 2012 - 11:09 AM, said:
Posted 30 March 2012 - 11:32 AM
DMC707, on 30 March 2012 - 09:51 AM, said:
On wide open trails you don't need al that, but on tehnical stuff it helps a lot.
With a juice clutch you have a better fine feel and control + no arm pump.
On roots and rocks a MX tire slips like crazy, a soft enduro tire has grip - you can get such a tire only on a 18"
WR tranny ??? - best mod for a YZ: great torque in the 1-3 and great speed in 4-5.
KTM has stock this goodies.
Posted 30 March 2012 - 11:49 AM
dmikel, on 30 March 2012 - 11:32 AM, said:
With a juice clutch you have a better fine feel and control + no arm pump.
On roots and rocks a MX tire slips like crazy, a soft enduro tire has grip - you can get such a tire only on a 18"
WR tranny ??? - best mod for a YZ: great torque in the 1-3 and great speed in 4-5.
KTM has stock this goodies.
Posted 30 March 2012 - 01:29 PM
screnshaw400, on 29 March 2012 - 05:35 PM, said:
I share your pain and loss in the wallet .... recently found a used 2012 ktm 250 xc that was race ready and couldn't be happier ....coming off a yz 250 that I thought was great (it is pretty damned good and has been bulletproof) until I started riding some friends ktm's that were designed for the offroad.
thankfully my brain has blocked out my ability to remember how much time /money spend on yz mods ....it's like how my mind has totally blocked out all memories of all the diapers I changed over the years with 4 kids
Posted 30 March 2012 - 03:25 PM
Posted 31 March 2012 - 12:46 PM
d_mac, on 31 March 2012 - 07:13 AM, said:
If you want to know how they really do just browse through lots of hardcore woods riding in Hawaii - it is home to a lot of Japanese 2-stroke. In hard trail take midway the Pacific, you'd see how Japanese MX bikes do in such technical riding. Also, at 3:45 min you would see a KTM 2-stroke billowing smoke/ puking.
Posted 01 April 2012 - 09:30 PM
dmikel, on 30 March 2012 - 09:04 AM, said:
to make from a mx bike a trail bike you need:
- bark busters ....... $
- flywheel weight 100 $
- hidro-clutch 200 $
- 18" rear wheel to run a good enduro tire 200 $
- suspensin work ........ $
- motor porting 300-600 $ (eric gorr)
- WR tranny (for YZ) 150 $
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You will get a lighter enduro bike , but with hard work and much money !
Why would you port a Japanese MX bike for woods? Just use less throttle. If anything, you'll need to port the anemic KTM to respond to rapid throttle oscillations. Stock tuning on the XC-W is slow compared to MX bike.
Edited by shrubitup, 01 April 2012 - 09:31 PM.
Posted 02 April 2012 - 10:59 AM
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Posted 02 April 2012 - 11:49 AM
I love the way the Suzuki's handle . The price would have to be right to consider a 97 model, but if it is -- go with your heart i guess. There were a few years after that in the early 2000's where Suzuki performance almost re-gressed and thats when i went blue -- but that generation Suzuki was a nice motorcycle for its time if you valued good handling and a midrange motor
Posted 02 April 2012 - 02:15 PM
tribalbc, on 02 April 2012 - 11:41 AM, said:
Posted 02 April 2012 - 02:19 PM
DMC707, on 02 April 2012 - 11:49 AM, said:
I love the way the Suzuki's handle . The price would have to be right to consider a 97 model, but if it is -- go with your heart i guess. There were a few years after that in the early 2000's where Suzuki performance almost re-gressed and thats when i went blue -- but that generation Suzuki was a nice motorcycle for its time if you valued good handling and a midrange motor
Posted 02 April 2012 - 04:24 PM
dmikel, on 30 March 2012 - 09:04 AM, said:
to make from a mx bike a trail bike you need:
- bark busters ....... $
- flywheel weight 100 $
- hidro-clutch 200 $
- 18" rear wheel to run a good enduro tire 200 $
- suspensin work ........ $
- motor porting 300-600 $ (eric gorr)
- WR tranny (for YZ) 150 $
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You will get a lighter enduro bike , but with hard work and much money !
You dont NEED most of that stuff. I've trail ridden stock 250 2 stroke mx bikes since I was tall enough to ride one with just a skid plate & a 3 gallon tank.
Posted 02 April 2012 - 04:49 PM
I like the KTM's better than a modded mx'er due to smoother power delivery. Then again, I like my KDX better than the KTM's.... but that's just me. I have a lot of mods & money into it (for a kdx) and (so far) I don't race. Even with my mods I still haven't spent as much as I would have on a nice used KTM. $1450 for the bike with lot's of upgrades already on it such as IMS tank, FMF pipe, FMF muffler, bark busters, fresh Wiseco top end, etc. Autoclutch, engine mods and KX front end added by me for about 7 bills. All of my friends say they wouldn't hesitate to race it, even if they are biased towards orange. Best part of it for me is the low maintenance & high reliability that a KDX motor delivers in spades.
Whatever you decide to do, don't jump on the first thing that comes along just because that tax refund is burning a hole in your pocket. Patience yields rewards if you watch craigslist long enough. A clean, low mileage stocker is less valuable to me than a modded bike that's obviously been ridden but well taken care of. Just my 2 cents.








