Lemme preface this by saying, usually I am open for multiple opinions, but on this case i would "prefer" a qualified one, lol. No offense!!!!

So, I am finally feeling like I got my mind right to get back into working out/ eating right. Long overdue. At one time I lost 70lbs....while I didn't let myself get back to that point over the last several months...I was trying.

Back then I took mega-men multi-v from GNC, I also ate a diet with quite a bit of tuna/lean meat, eggs, cottage cheese, natural peanut butter, lot of green veggies, limited fruit, etc. Was a primarily protein heavy diet, id say something like, of daily caloric intake (roughly 1900cal), I was around 65% from protein, 25% from fat, and just 10% from carbs. Yes I ate 45-55g a day of carbs or less....everyday for about a year. While you'd fear lack of energy, I really never felt like it....I think you just get used to it. My tuna intake may even been a lil high, typically a can a day, but im 29/m, and I never really felt any ill effects from mercury, etc.

What I never considered was taking a multi-v + getting a lot of that from food. Well, I bought a multi v today, also some magnesium, to experiment with it and seeing if, plus calcium and zinc, would help at all with my hand numbing issue when I ride. Then I got to wondering, would I be taking too much? I mean, I fear I will easily reach the RDA of things like Vitamin A, D, Zinc, Selenium, Calcium, etc by taking a multi-v + a pretty clean diet. When I get on these diets and my mind is in it, I am bout as strict as it gets...won't even eat a cracker, lol. I mean I read, and I forget which of them it was, but chicken had like 11,000IU of one of em, and spinach had 11,000 IU of it as well, and sometimes for dinner I'd eat a boneless/skinless breast with mushrooms/spinach, and a little blue cheese. Thats like 22k IU when the RDA was like 3k, lol...with a "high" of 10k in a day.

On the flip side, I do not want to be short on these things, and want to try this other thing out for my hand, just to see if it makes any noticeable difference.

My question is, and I do plan on speaking to my doc bout it too, whats the likelihood I can "OD" on the vitamins you don't wanna overdo? I mean I read the back of my Multi-V and its bordering on being too high on its own. Also, if I was to eat the meal stated above a couple times a week (or similar), would I be risking "chronic OD'ing".

Was acually thinking I might chop the vitamins in half or 1/3s and therefore aid in not being short, but also not overdoing some of them.

By the way, if it matters, I am 5'8 180lbs. I plan to get back to around 160. My low 2 summers ago was 155 for a short time, haha. Not sustainable though. I also do not eat any fortified foods really. I mean the food is what it is.

Thanks in advance!

I just watched FOOD MATTERS last night, a documentary about the food we eat and basically the lack of nutrients in them. According to the doctors on the documentary, there have only been 10 deaths of vitamin overdose over the past 23 years. On the contrary, According to the groundbreaking 2003 medical report Death by Medicine, by Drs. Gary Null, Carolyn Dean, Martin Feldman, Debora Rasio and Dorothy Smith, 783,936 people in the United States die every year from conventional medicine mistakes.

Learn more: http://www.naturalne...l#ixzz1phnGp8Tk

Hope this helps, I am no Dr., but according to this information it is highly unlikely of you having a vitamin overdose.

Ride On!

Jamie Lanza

Ride Open Tours

Well right, i dont mean drop dead like you did too much drugs at one time, lol. Cuz, they may not be linking things people did die (or become very ill) from to the possibility of too much of a specific vitamin over a long period of time. Like, liver, kidney, etc problems. I mean yea, a lot of food has a lack of nutrients in them, unless they are legit, non junk, or fortified, etc. However, what I am referring too, is eating a diet rich in foods that DO contain nutrients...PLUS adding supplements on top. I mean there are some things you get from a multi-v that are hard to get enough of in a daily diet....while other vitamins, are prevelant in every day foods, then the multi-v companies throw a bunch in the vitamins. Should be the other way around, i mean focus on ones that are hard to get in a "normal" diet.

Edited by J_WR2fitty, 20 March 2012 - 05:40 PM.

RideOpenTours, on 20 March 2012 - 04:18 PM, said:

Groundbreaking medical report???

Hah!  Can I sell you some swamp land in Florida?

You need to read your medical reports with a more critical eye.  This group publishes their own B.S., and has created their own "college" to issue degrees to each other, and give each other fancy titles.  They make dupes out of people like YOU.

Google "Quackwatch Gary Null" and read for yourself.  But I'm sure you've already swallowed the koolaid if you are going around saying Death by Medicine is "groundbreaking."

Edited by stanky1, 21 March 2012 - 03:58 PM.

Kinda why i just wanted a qualified opinion, lol...turns into this crap

By crap, I assume you are referring to Lanza's post.

Unless you go crazy on these things, you'll pee out the water soluble vitamins.  The fat soluble ones, like A,D,E and K, are the ones that will hang with you.  They WILL cause you problems at high doses.

The question is why do you want to waste your money on this stuff if you are eating a healthy diet?  By the way, legitimate research has shown that only Vit D has benefits, unless you are on some bizarre diet.

There you have your qualified opinion, but I'm sure it isn't what you wanted to hear.

Edited by stanky1, 21 March 2012 - 08:59 PM.

stanky1, on 21 March 2012 - 03:57 PM, said:

yeah, I also laughed at the "ground breaking" when I copied and pasted..... I would of said something way cooler like.......... "heart dropping"

Ha ha

stanky, no that has some merit, and I understand what you are saying. I was more just supplementing a regular vitamin for what i DONT get, and I didnt wanna go overboard, lol. I have just been takin half of each of em, and 3 fish oil caps a day. I suppose I dont HAVE to have it, but its not like im popping 2-3 vits a day either, lol.

The problem lies where like i said before, i wish the vits were geared more towards one you typically dont get in the normal but GOOD diet, that isnt off the wall checking the vitamin content in every little thing and keeping track by the gram, lol. Seems they are always loaded with ones you can readily get from a lot of foods.

Ah well....and no by the crap i just meant the lil mini-battles starting, lol. I do agree though about the studies, really gotta watch the source or they will bias and spin the crap out of stuff in their favors.

J_WR2fitty, on 21 March 2012 - 04:26 PM, said:

yeah, sorry about that.

Honestly, I just thought the movie was interesting and that I would mention it because it pertained to your post.

RideOpenTours, on 22 March 2012 - 04:55 PM, said:

its cool, i just know from seeing debates over medical reports on a work out forum i used while back that the source is important. I mean i dunno....dont worry bout it, lol.

stanky1, on 21 March 2012 - 06:47 PM, said:

I agree with him completely. The water soluble ones you basically pee off if you have too much of them. The fat soluble ones could cause problems in high doses. I'm somewhat qualified to answer this (3rd soon 4th year nursing student) but I'd consult your doctor. Or other professional medical advice, not on the internet.

79yamdt, on 22 March 2012 - 05:33 PM, said:

yea i thought "DrMark" answered some stuff, looks like not, lol. Either way, i will check with a doctor if i become OVERLY worried, was more curious if its possible.

I think the ten deaths are suspected that vitamins played a roll, only 1-2 deaths I believe are actually proven that vitamin did.

RideOpenTours, on 20 March 2012 - 04:18 PM, said: