Maybe a class action lawsuit would help??
Posted October 12, 2003 - 03:45 PM
Posted October 12, 2003 - 04:22 PM
Posted October 12, 2003 - 05:25 PM
Is Yamaha stepping up and fixing this problem or leaving it up to the conusmer to pay for it themselves?
Posted October 12, 2003 - 07:23 PM
Posted October 12, 2003 - 10:10 PM
Posted October 13, 2003 - 05:38 AM
The glue and lapping fix is BS.
The taper is incorrect in either the flywheel or the crankshaft. I think once it does shear a key both need to be replaced. I would get a contact at Yamaha corporate from your dealer and make some noise.
Posted October 13, 2003 - 06:11 AM
I have 8 Supermoto race weekends, 3 roadrace weekends, a flat track race and 2 practice days on it.
Posted October 13, 2003 - 06:26 AM
The lapping compound that Yamaha recommends is 280 grit oil based but if the tapers still show inconsistencies after the lapping procedure then a lower grit could be used and then repeat the 280 grit lapping.
I have a suspicion that dealers aren’t being very careful and that perhaps they are using the wrong Loctite. They are only compensated .7 hours which means they probably won't take extra time to be really careful and thorough. I have checked the torque on my rotor nut at every oil change and it has never moved a bit.
Posted October 13, 2003 - 06:38 AM
Posted October 13, 2003 - 09:01 AM
www.loctite.com/int_henkel/loctite_us/index.cfm?&pageid=19&layout=3 Search for 648 I had a failure at 0 miles and Yamaha replaced the crank and rotor after a little prodding from the dealer so far if a dealer stands up for the customer then Yamaha has replaced both crank and rotor and if you have had a reoccurring problem I would talk to my dealer and Yamaha together and you'll get your bike fixed. If you like I will fax the 5 page service bulletin to anyone that PMs me with a fax number. Remember the only permanent fix is to replace the rotor and the crank (forget the loctite)This is my experience with the dealer: My dealer is a small shop they only got 1 wr last year and 1 for this year which I will buy. The service dept is smaller 1 guy who mostly assembles John Deere equipment, in the summer they add one more so you know they never have had a wr apart. We of course had to wait on the crankshaft and the rotor that took 2 months, as there were none in stock. Ray, the summer guy is about 45 and has worked on motorcycles for years, admitted that he was excited to get to tear the first one down however they had to order a manual. The first day I show up with lunch for the whole service and parts depts, 3 Wendy's combos, 14 bucks, (the parts guy is my contact he sold me the bike in the crate) Ray has the engine apart laying on the table we look over the parts and he says you know I've never got to tear a new one down (the bike had 0 miles as it failed in the drive way) Ray was looking over the instructions about checking the crank to rotor fit and said he didn't have the stuff to do it and he had never done that before, I volunteered to help and supply the stuff which I had. The second day along with my 3 wendy's combos we check the taper and it's good (we measured the tapers trust me if you had problems the crank and rotor need replaced) Ray thanked me for showing him the process, in 20 years he hadn't the opportunity to ever check the crank taper. The third day when I picked up the wr, at lunch of course with 3 wendy's combos in tow) we have had no trouble since. I did have them order the new "slip" gears at 36 bucks cheap insurance. Make friends with these guys it's better that they like you and are working on your bike than think you are an a**hole and working on your bike. For less than 50 bucks and not being an a**hole I am treated like one of the family at the dealership. It also was after that I started getting better discounts on parts.
Posted October 14, 2003 - 05:03 PM
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Posted October 16, 2003 - 07:08 AM
I can't imagine what the resale on these things is going to be.
Posted October 16, 2003 - 07:10 AM
Posted October 16, 2003 - 07:52 PM
Posted October 24, 2003 - 12:09 PM
May I suggest Motorcyclist Consumer News.They are very good about publishing problems with new model bikes.With your your frustrations and all the others that are well documented on this forum I am sure they would be interested.
They even go so far as to contact the Mfg. for a statement. They recently played a role in the recall of the GL1800 for all its troubles.
Besides MCN is also a good read. Send them an e-mail...I plan to.
Posted October 24, 2003 - 04:37 PM
Posted October 24, 2003 - 05:52 PM