Home made carrier


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  • dirtracker

Posted 20 February 2012 - 08:47 AM

#1

This is my freinds stupid homemade dirtbike carrier on his corolla!!!!
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Edited by dirtracker, 20 February 2012 - 09:34 AM.


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  • yamaharider0992

Posted 20 February 2012 - 10:17 AM

#2

is that justin barcia's bike? lol

  • 79yamdt

Posted 20 February 2012 - 12:58 PM

#3

So whats that mounted on? a class I hitch with a 200lb tongue weight rating. At least its as close to the car as he can get to reduce the leverage the bike has on the hitch. I'm sure that corolla loves that bike on the back of it.

Edited by 79yamdt, 20 February 2012 - 01:04 PM.


  • Bearman108

Posted 20 February 2012 - 01:17 PM

#4

ahhh, good old fashioned ingenuity!!!

  • BlackBuzzard

Posted 20 February 2012 - 01:32 PM

#5

This combo will not end well.

I say the "hitch frame" to vehicle mounting points will fold or give out at the worst possible time.......like 15 yds after crossing railroad tracks at 45 mph.

Rear suspension is most likely already within one inch of bottom, while the front headlight point toward the moon.


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  • Chickenhauler

Posted 20 February 2012 - 04:16 PM

#6

BlackBuzzard, on 20 February 2012 - 01:32 PM, said:

This combo will not end well.

I say the "hitch frame" to vehicle mounting points will fold or give out at the worst possible time.......like 15 yds after crossing railroad tracks at 45 mph.

Rear suspension is most likely already within one inch of bottom, while the front headlight point toward the moon.


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That's only if a cop doesn't see them first-severely obstructed tail lights.

And if the cop don't get ya, some guy texting will----smash, and you got a pickup truck in the backseat cuz they couldn't see the tail/brake lights.

Are those horizontal supports REBAR?


Here's my advice...never admit to anyone that you are friends with this person.  You are judged by the company you keep.

  • 79yamdt

Posted 20 February 2012 - 05:47 PM

#7

Yeah I didn't even realize you can't really see any lights but the drivers side. It just seems all around bad. If he has money for a bike he should invest in a small trailer that he could pull behind his car.

  • inthedirtagain

Posted 23 February 2012 - 04:45 PM

#8

The bike is worth more than the car, so why go cheap on a hauler?  Plenty of other options around that would be cheaper than the cost of all his bling.

  • maxamillion125

Posted 23 February 2012 - 10:08 PM

#9

I'de bet that corolla has a unibody frame.  Your buddy is attatching a hitch to essentially sheet metal.   This eventually will end bad.

Edited by maxamillion125, 23 February 2012 - 10:09 PM.


  • 79yamdt

Posted 24 February 2012 - 08:06 AM

#10

maxamillion125, on 23 February 2012 - 10:08 PM, said:

I'de bet that corolla has a unibody frame.  Your buddy is attatching a hitch to essentially sheet metal.   This eventually will end bad.
Well many new suvs are unibody construction and can tow decent amounts, the durango, grand cherokee, exlporer, and acadia/traverse can all tow atleast 5000lbs. But they will have class III/IV hitches which can handle the load unlike the class I which is over it's limits with this load. Some cars you can get a class II for, I know mine you can.
http://www.etrailer....icleid=20022254
They sell a class I for it to but it doesn't mount up in the same way and looks very weak and unsafe the way it mounts. If the hitch mounts the same way as the class I that's availibe for my car I would definitely not want a 230lb bike on it.

Edited by 79yamdt, 24 February 2012 - 08:13 AM.


  • maxamillion125

Posted 24 February 2012 - 08:27 AM

#11

Did you just compare a toyota corrola to a grand cherokee or explorer?  Its not what class the hitch is rated for but the design and structure of the vehicle.  The issue is what the car is rated for. Not only will it take weight off the front wheels, there is potential for the rear coming around on a corner with the moment arm of that weight sticking out there.  The hitch is rated for a load assuming the placement of the load where the ball would be. When you move the load back, the actual load is not the weight of the bike, it could be double that, or more.  Think of the rack as a giant pry bar trying to rip the hitch off the car. The further back you move the load, the more the load goes up at the lever fulcrum (the mounting point). It may seem okay, until you hit a dip or bump in the road.

  • Revelyell

Posted 24 February 2012 - 10:00 AM

#12

His car.
His bike.
His property.

Until it causes a problem for someone else (falling off and landing in the middle of the highway)....I really don't give a shit.

  • Chris Hammer

Posted 24 February 2012 - 10:21 AM

#13

I think its hilarious....9K bike on a 1.5K car lol Shows love for our sport.

  • maxamillion125

Posted 24 February 2012 - 11:47 AM

#14

Revelyell, on 24 February 2012 - 10:00 AM, said:

His car.
His bike.
His property.

Until it causes a problem for someone else (falling off and landing in the middle of the highway)....I really don't give a shit.

Relax newb, were just trying to inform this guy so he can tell his "friend" about the risks that he might not be aware of.

  • Chickenhauler

Posted 24 February 2012 - 12:15 PM

#15

inthedirtagain, on 23 February 2012 - 04:45 PM, said:

The bike is worth more than the car, so why go cheap on a hauler?  Plenty of other options around that would be cheaper than the cost of all his bling.

Priorities man, priorities....we used to go racing with $15k worth of bikes in the back of a $200 truck.  Filled up both gas tanks, and it became a $250 truck.

79yamdt, on 24 February 2012 - 08:06 AM, said:

Well many new suvs are unibody construction and can tow decent amounts, the durango, grand cherokee, exlporer, and acadia/traverse can all tow atleast 5000lbs. But they will have class III/IV hitches which can handle the load unlike the class I which is over it's limits with this load. Some cars you can get a class II for, I know mine you can.
http://www.etrailer....icleid=20022254
They sell a class I for it to but it doesn't mount up in the same way and looks very weak and unsafe the way it mounts. If the hitch mounts the same way as the class I that's availibe for my car I would definitely not want a 230lb bike on it.

Class II still is not sufficient for that purpose-200 lbs tongue rating.  Bike exceeds that alone, not even counting the carrier.

Revelyell, on 24 February 2012 - 10:00 AM, said:

His car.
His bike.
His property.

Until it causes a problem for someone else (falling off and landing in the middle of the highway)....I really don't give a shit.

That's kinda short-sighted thinking, thankfully we have proactive regulations in place for highway safety.

Novel things like functioning brakes, lights, signals, steering, decent tires, proper securement, etc are required.

  • dirtracker

Posted 24 February 2012 - 12:31 PM

#16

Actually this hauler was for his kids SX50 but I dont think he will  haul his full  size bike to the tracks  with this set up!!!!I only found this pictures on his facebook maybe he just move the bike around the block hahaha!!!!

  • 79yamdt

Posted 24 February 2012 - 12:32 PM

#17

Chickenhauler, on 24 February 2012 - 12:15 PM, said:

Priorities man, priorities....we used to go racing with $15k worth of bikes in the back of a $200 truck.  Filled up both gas tanks, and it became a $250 truck.



Class II still is not sufficient for that purpose-200 lbs tongue rating.  Bike exceeds that alone, not even counting the carrier.



That's kinda short-sighted thinking, thankfully we have proactive regulations in place for highway safety.

Novel things like functioning brakes, lights, signals, steering, decent tires, proper securement, etc are required.

I thought class II hitches are usually rated for 350lb tounge weight and 3500lb gross? Either way I wouldn't want all that weight on the back of my little car.

Edited by 79yamdt, 24 February 2012 - 12:39 PM.


  • 79yamdt

Posted 24 February 2012 - 12:38 PM

#18

maxamillion125, on 24 February 2012 - 08:27 AM, said:

Did you just compare a toyota corrola to a grand cherokee or explorer?  Its not what class the hitch is rated for but the design and structure of the vehicle.  The issue is what the car is rated for. Not only will it take weight off the front wheels, there is potential for the rear coming around on a corner with the moment arm of that weight sticking out there.  The hitch is rated for a load assuming the placement of the load where the ball would be. When you move the load back, the actual load is not the weight of the bike, it could be double that, or more.  Think of the rack as a giant pry bar trying to rip the hitch off the car. The further back you move the load, the more the load goes up at the lever fulcrum (the mounting point). It may seem okay, until you hit a dip or bump in the road.

But the way you stated it was that since it's unibody it could not handle it. I'm comparing how they are designed. The grand cherokee and explorer use a unibody construction, just like cars do, not body on frame like traditional trucks and suv's use. Yes that is too much for that car anyways, I understand that. I just wanted to point out that a vehicle with unibody construction can be used in towing and can tow a decent amount of weight if designed to do so. This car wasn't so I wouldn't want to put that much weight on it, and yes you are correct that the further back the bike is the more load is on the rear. At least the bike is very close to the car to help reduce this.

Edited by 79yamdt, 24 February 2012 - 12:40 PM.


  • Chickenhauler

Posted 24 February 2012 - 12:44 PM

#19

dirtracker, on 24 February 2012 - 12:31 PM, said:

Actually this hauler was for his kids SX50 but I dont think he will  haul his full  size bike to the tracks  with this set up!!!!I only found this pictures on his facebook maybe he just move the bike around the block hahaha!!!!

That's a lot less scary, but the rebar still looks sketchy for anything more than a pedal bike.


79yamdt, on 24 February 2012 - 12:32 PM, said:

I thought class II was 350lb tounge weight and 3500lb gross?

You're right, "up to" 350 lbs tongue and 3500 gross.

Let me clarify, it could be anywhere in between 200-350 tongue and 2,000 and 3,500 gross weight.

Either way, I don't think there's many (if any) FWD econo-cars that have a 350 tongue rating for towing.

  • 79yamdt

Posted 24 February 2012 - 12:55 PM

#20

Chickenhauler, on 24 February 2012 - 12:44 PM, said:

That's a lot less scary, but the rebar still looks sketchy for anything more than a pedal bike.


You're right, "up to" 350 lbs tongue and 3500 gross.

Let me clarify, it could be anywhere in between 200-350 tongue and 2,000 and 3,500 gross weight.

Either way, I don't think there's many (if any) FWD econo-cars that have a 350 tongue rating for towing.

Yeah I know my saab 93 has a recomended tongue weight of no more than 165lbs which doesn't make much sense since it's rated to tow a 3500lb trailer as long as you have brakes. Isn't your tongue weight supposed to be 10-15% of your gross? 165lbs is less than 5% of 3500lbs. I would simply purchase the class II hitch because it appears to have more secure mounting points than the class I. I highly doubt any small cars have a 350lb tongue rating either.




 
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