Bike won't start


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  • Stealth13

Posted January 31, 2012 - 05:35 PM

#1

I spent half hour trying to start the bike with the kick and still won't start... Now my leg hurts. What can I do ?

  • William1

Posted January 31, 2012 - 05:57 PM

#2

New fuel
New spark plug
Check valve clearances

  • Stealth13

Posted January 31, 2012 - 06:15 PM

#3

Maybe I'm stupid but how do I check valve clearance ? And test spark?

  • Stealth13

Posted January 31, 2012 - 10:30 PM

#4

If the battery makes 7 volts max when charged should I still be able to kick it?

  • miweber929

Posted February 01, 2012 - 05:48 AM

#5

Probably not. Buy a new battery, sounds like yours is pulling down the circuit.

What year do you have?

  • Stealth13

Posted February 01, 2012 - 07:15 AM

#6

It's a 2006. We put the battery on our charger and it only held 7... I figured that since it has a kick it should still start? Or does it still need a certain voltage? Like if a good cOndition battery is completely dead you can still kick it back up right?

  • miweber929

Posted February 01, 2012 - 11:20 AM

#7

It's a 2006. We put the battery on our charger and it only held 7... I figured that since it has a kick it should still start? Or does it still need a certain voltage? Like if a good cOndition battery is completely dead you can still kick it back up right?


It needs a certian voltage. If the battery is simply dead, but will chanrge up to 12 volts it should kick; if after charging your battery is still at 7 volts it will load down the electical system and probably cause it to not start.

WR's are not quite a batteryless system, but of you have something that "draws" voltage from the CDI, it will not start. If you replaced the battery with a series of capacitors that simulate a battery it will run without. Search this a bit as well, it's been covered before.

Mike

Edited by miweber929, February 01, 2012 - 11:20 AM.


  • Stealth13

Posted February 01, 2012 - 11:52 AM

#8

Ok I'll try a new battery and see if that helps. When I kick it I can see the lights flash for a fraction of a second then go off again.

  • Stealth13

Posted February 01, 2012 - 04:30 PM

#9

I put in a new battery and I can hear it trying to start but nothing... Is there any sensors like a kick stand sensor that could stop it from starting ? I'm so confused

  • Stealth13

Posted February 01, 2012 - 11:16 PM

#10

Update: changed spark plug and gas. Still no start. Tested for spark and it is good. We tried to push start and it sounds like its turning over for half a second then dies... Anyone?

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  • miweber929

Posted February 02, 2012 - 05:21 AM

#11

Engine needs 3 things to fire: compression, fuel, spark. If you have spark, check for fuel and if your leg hurts from kicking I'd say you have some compression.

At this point I'd like to know ANYTHING and EVERYTHING you've done to the bike since the last time it ran. Even if it seems small, has anything changed? When is the last time you've checked valves? The last time it started, did it start hard? Does it normally start hard? What about timing, fuel, carb, airbox anything engine related mods? We'll need more info before going further.

Have you tried a little starting fluid? Did you charge the battery before installing like you are supposed to? Does it pop off at all?

If you don't know how to check valves take it to a shop who does. A small independent shop should charge under $200 for a full tuneup, MUCH cheaper than a topend rebuild if you do it wrong.

Mike

  • Stealth13

Posted February 02, 2012 - 07:29 AM

#12

Since the last time it ran I did nothing besides let it sit in the cold, the bike is stock besides a yz throttle stop. It was hard to start last time it started, probably took 5 minutes of kicking. Once it started it ran great. I have never checked the valves or carb.

Some people are saying the jets might be clogged or carb needs a cleaning?

I can smell fuel going into the carb then dripping out the overflow after a while

  • miweber929

Posted February 02, 2012 - 08:24 AM

#13

Since the last time it ran I did nothing besides let it sit in the cold, the bike is stock besides a yz throttle stop. It was hard to start last time it started, probably took 5 minutes of kicking. Once it started it ran great. I have never checked the valves or carb.

Some people are saying the jets might be clogged or carb needs a cleaning?

I can smell fuel going into the carb then dripping out the overflow after a while


If you have been currently and actively riding it, a carb clean is a possibility, but somewhat low on my list, especially since you are in fact seeing fuel come out the carb. It';s possible, but I'd say a bit unlikely. These carbs have small passages that easlily get clogged, but mine sits quite often for a month or so at a time and have yet to have a problem. If you pour fuel out of dirty cans, or have suspect gas, then I'd go there. But if it's been increasingly difficult to start, especially cold and you don't know when the last valve check was, I'd be thinking there.

If funds are tight, go through the carb first, but if it's the carb it should fire and run with fuel poured directly in the engine or on starting fluid. If it doesn't or immediately stops, I'd start by re-verifying spark and then getting your valves checked. My thought is tight intake, especially if you are a high RPM runner and haven't checked them or know the last time they were.

Just an opinion, but there are not really any safety things other than the clutch switch which should kill spark if that was broken or inopperable.

Mike

  • Stealth13

Posted February 02, 2012 - 08:50 AM

#14

Ok well the gas is brand new, how do I test it by putting fuel directly into the engine? I've only rode this bike once for 20 minutes so don't know much about it other than it runs great once it started .

Not sure how to check the valves as ive only had 1 other bike an xt225 which had no issues

  • GCannon

Posted February 03, 2012 - 11:26 AM

#15

You need to completely clean your carburetor. You must also check accelerator pump operation while your there. There is tons of great info on accelerator pump mods at the top of this forum. Everyone has an opinion on which is best BK mod, Oring Mod, Heavy pump return spring , and Taffy mod.

Read some and then ask more questions

  • Stealth13

Posted February 03, 2012 - 11:30 AM

#16

We sprayed starter fluid in the airbox and it fires up for a couple seconds. Buddy is taking it to his shop to take apart

  • beezer

Posted February 03, 2012 - 02:13 PM

#17

I bet the pilot jet is clogged.

  • Stealth13

Posted February 03, 2012 - 03:13 PM

#18

It was clogged now it runs but overheats in 5 minutes... Any ideas??

  • The Hopper Show

Posted February 03, 2012 - 04:55 PM

#19

its lean. rejet it to the proper jets for your location. and if it is sitting idle for 5 min it will prob overheat anyway.

  • Stealth13

Posted February 03, 2012 - 05:51 PM

#20

Why would it be lean? It's been in the same location since new




 
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