Just wanted to see if anybody has welded a single bike holder (Similar to the ones you can put in your trailer hitch) on the tongue of a camper trailer in order to get a 450 around...

I had thought about doing this. The concern I would have is clearance when you are turning or backing up. I thinking of welding a hitch on the back of the trailer and putting one of those receiver bike carriers on. It would not increase the tongue weight as bad either.

Yeah, I was thinking of that too but it seems that most of todays campers have a very weak and basic square tube that is nothing more than aluminum and mostly for looks...

I figure there has to be somebody that has done this..

Bandit is right about the clearance issue. Most modern trailers
only have about 4' from the body of the trailer to the tip of the
tongue. In addition, factor the propane tanks and battery. and
space becomes limited very fast. A trailer tongue extension can
be done.($$$) Tongue weight becomes a factor, but w/ the right
weight distribution hitch it's not an issue.

At the rear of a trailer has own unique issues. Trailer frames
often lack adequate frame structure to support an extension.
I.E. 225lbs+motorcycle rack+hitch structure add up quickly.
Believe it or not, 225lbs at the rear of a trailer can drastically
change the towing characteristics of a trailer. Trailer tongue-
weight should be around 10-12 percent of the entire trailer
weight.

I'm not saying that either one can't be done, it just has to be
done properly.

Hope this helps,
Cheers

I put a rack on the back of my 5th wheel. It did not work out very well at all. The axels are so far from the back of a camper that it makes the motorcycle on the rack act like a catapult. I cinched it down as tight as I could and that bike still went for quite a ride. It moved around so much that one of the bar ends broke the back window of the trailer. I did it twice one time about 400 miles and one time about 200 miles. I decided to stop doing it before the bike decided to come off the rack. The bike was a DRZ 400 ,there just is not a way to stop the the bouncing action.
If you have a long tongue I think it would work much better than in the back. You could possibly lengthen the tongue to make it work but as stated It would be a problem in turns on a standard length tonge.

My brother in law extended the frame rails out and mounted a platform on the rear of his trailer. He hauled his 600 many miles on it. He mounted a rail to hold the bike and built a platform about two feet wide around the rail to hold gas cans and such. I think he did move the axle a little to balance it properly for tongue weight.

I have 1000's of miles on my setup.
Key is to have a strong tongue (box steel), long enough tongue and balanced weight to get the optimum tongue weight when loaded. (10-15% of overall).
Mine is bolted on with u-bolts, I use a bike shoe up front and a piece of allthread bolted to the front of the trailer box and the upper triple clamp on the CRF. This allows the bike to "float" on the rack and works perfect. I used this same setup on the back of my pre-runner before and I could get air with the bike on- no problem.

dezracerE, on 24 January 2012 - 06:25 PM, said:

If you just ditched the razor... JK...

Nice set up. Ever bump the bike with your bumper when making tight awkward maneuvers?

Yes, I am curious of that too, it seems turning radius may be effected. So I guess that it just comes down to if there is enough room on the tongue of the trailer?

How do you know if the tongue is strong enough? Im looking at a 21ss rockwood roo.

clutchless, on 25 January 2012 - 08:57 AM, said:

No. Just be careful.

As for the RZR, I find myself using it more than the bike lately.
With age comes cage.
(class 50 dudes still break out in a cold sweat when I show up though )

scooter12, on 25 January 2012 - 03:53 PM, said:

Just make sure the frame is boxed all the way back.
You can beef it up if you are not sure.
No bending yet.
I have about 400 lbs of tongue weight with my rack on the back for weight distribution(generator, cooler, storage box- 200 lbs).
My tongue is long- about 3.5 ft. That makes this possible.

Here is the back setup-dual receivers- very strong.



My Ford pulls this easily.
I fall asleep sometimes.

Please keep us posted on what you find/design...this is also what I had in mind. We haul trials motorcycles and I was also planning to put them on the tongue...put one on the tongue and the second in the back?

we bolted one on. Figured if we got into a manuvering bind, we could unbolt it.