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[yates12 TT Member]

i have a 2006 cummins 2500 quad cab 6 speed and i love it i have never had any trouble expect wen i first bought it was tht it had a bad clutch

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roostierooster855, on 27 February 2012 - 12:36 PM, said:

yeah anything but a toyota, buy american

Must be from Michigan.

I sold my American made Toyota, got me a Ram 2500 diesel  that was made in Saltillo Mexico.

Edited by toyota_mdt_tech, 29 February 2012 - 06:11 AM.

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toyota_mdt_tech, on 29 February 2012 - 06:11 AM, said:

Must be from Michigan.

I sold my American made Toyota, got me a Ram 2500 diesel  that was made in Saltillo Mexico.

all ram trucks 1500,2500,3500 are made in mexico but also only the 1500 is made in Mi, all chevy and ford trucks are built here,

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roostierooster855, on 29 February 2012 - 03:47 PM, said:

all ram trucks 1500,2500,3500 are made in mexico but also only the 1500 is made in Mi, all chevy and ford trucks are built here,

So which is American made, the Saltillio built Dodge or the US made Tundra out of Texas and Indianna.

The dirty little secret is the domesticas refer to is as "North American Made" which includes Canada and even Mexico but doesnt mean its made in US.

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toyota_mdt_tech, on 29 February 2012 - 03:53 PM, said:

So which is American made, the Saltillio built Dodge or the US made Tundra out of Texas and Indianna.

The dirty little secret is the domesticas refer to is as "North American Made" which includes Canada and even Mexico but doesnt mean its made in US.

I really dont care who disagrees with me but the dodge, ford and chevy are the american ones.  The yotas are not designed here i dont think and they will not be nearly ass good.  You even see a lawn and snow service using a foreign pickup, hahahah nooooo.  And what company employs more American jobs? id say the big 3 easily .  Me, i just dont like foreign cars...... sticking gas pedals sry had to say it lol, but that actually killed people..... did you know that

Edited by roostierooster855, 29 February 2012 - 04:02 PM.

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roostierooster855, on 29 February 2012 - 04:02 PM, said:

I really dont care who disagrees with me but the dodge, ford and chevy are the american ones.  The yotas are not designed here i dont think and they will not be nearly ass good.  You even see a lawn and snow service using a foreign pickup, hahahah nooooo.  And what company employs more American jobs? id say the big 3 easily .  Me, i just dont like foreign cars...... sticking gas pedals sry had to say it lol, but that actually killed people..... did you know that

your the yota tech let us hear it, you should know alot about the yota trucks.  Seeing that you bought a ram must mean you didnt like theme.

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roostierooster855, on 29 February 2012 - 04:02 PM, said:

I really dont care who disagrees with me but the dodge, ford and chevy are the american ones.

Even if they're built in Mexico using foreign components?

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  The yotas are not designed here i dont think and they will not be nearly ass good.

http://www.toyota.co...ut/careers/ttc/

For more than 25 years, Toyota Technical Center (TTC), headquartered in Ann Arbor, Michigan, has been the driving force behind Toyota's North American Engineering and Research and Development activities. A division of Toyota Motor Engineering & Manufacturing North America, Inc., TTC is engaged in engineering design, prototype building, vehicle evaluation, evaluation and design of parts and materials, regulatory affairs, emissions certification and technical research.

I have personally visited Toyota Arizona Proving Ground

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You even see a lawn and snow service using a foreign pickup, hahahah nooooo.

Lawn service?  All the time.

Snow removal?  Not often, but how often do you see a professional snow removal operator using a half ton?  That silliness is for NEWBS.

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  And what company employs more American jobs? id say the big 3 easily .  Me, i just dont like foreign cars...... sticking gas pedals sry had to say it lol, but that actually killed people..... did you know that

Obviously, someone gets their paycheck from one of the big three.

It's OK to stick up for a failed company/product, even more so when it's the only thing keeping your state from becoming one great big welfare roll.

As for the recall, how many did Ford kill again with their tire pressure SNAFU?

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roostierooster855, on 29 February 2012 - 03:47 PM, said:

, all chevy and ford trucks are built here,

Not even close to true.

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Chokey, on 29 February 2012 - 04:50 PM, said:

Not even close to true.

Here's correct. I too like to buy American, but you can't say the Ford and GM are built here...you have to face the facts.

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well depends on what you consider built here, yes chevy has a truck plant in flint Mi and they have another truck plant in mexico.  Yeah i never see a lawn company use a toyota, im sorry but there a joke, lol i seen some guy towing a camper with a tundra and the thing was saggin a ton.  My friends tow a bigger camper with there f150 and it is not even near as bad, of course we were all ripping on it.... And all i ever see  the lawn and snow companies use are three quarter ton or one ton trucks to tow and plow allll the time and my bud owns his own and he uses a ram 2500 with a cummings.  You need a truck that can with stand towing all the time and also plowing to.  Come on you cant even argue that lawn companies and other companies that need trucks use American trucks usually ford, second most i see is chevy and third dodge.  But yes some of the ford and chevy trucks are built here.  Man i guess saying toyota trucks suck is not a good thing to say on here but cant hide the truth, the nissans suck to not only toyota.  They just dont know how to build trucks plain and simple. On top of that i think tundras look like shit, the chevy dodge and ford all look really nice!

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Chickenhauler, on 29 February 2012 - 04:26 PM, said:

Even if they're built in Mexico using foreign components?



http://www.toyota.co...ut/careers/ttc/

For more than 25 years, Toyota Technical Center (TTC), headquartered in Ann Arbor, Michigan, has been the driving force behind Toyota's North American Engineering and Research and Development activities. A division of Toyota Motor Engineering & Manufacturing North America, Inc., TTC is engaged in engineering design, prototype building, vehicle evaluation, evaluation and design of parts and materials, regulatory affairs, emissions certification and technical research.

I have personally visited Toyota Arizona Proving Ground



Lawn service?  All the time.

Snow removal?  Not often, but how often do you see a professional snow removal operator using a half ton?  That silliness is for NEWBS.



Obviously, someone gets their paycheck from one of the big three.

It's OK to stick up for a failed company/product, even more so when it's the only thing keeping your state from becoming one great big welfare roll.

As for the recall, how many did Ford kill again with their tire pressure SNAFU?

dude dont even start, go look up the recall list of all the car companies and see who is on top, never said the American companies never had a recall, just one not nearly as stupid and bad.  I mean toyota was just flat out piss poor with saying there was nothing wrong etc pathetic


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roostierooster855, on 29 February 2012 - 04:02 PM, said:

I really dont care who disagrees with me but the dodge, ford and chevy are the american ones.  The yotas are not designed here

More mis information. The US made Toyotas are in fact designed here by Americans, built here by Americans and having 80% US content, not north American, but US content.
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i dont think and they will not be nearly ass good.  You even see a lawn and snow service using a foreign pickup, hahahah

You mean like trucking companies?
http://www.hino.com/

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nooooo.  And what company employs more American jobs? id say the big 3 easily .

Which employs more mexicans in mexico? The big three!

Who is the big three? The biggest would be Toyota and GM in the world.




Who have the # selling car in the US? (hint, its Camry) So apparently many do this they do make a good car.
  

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Me, i just dont like foreign cars...... sticking gas pedals sry had to say it lol, but that actually killed people..... did you know that

No sticking gas pedal killed anyone. A pedal stuck from a wadded up floormat might have. NHTSA found zero trouble with the Toyotas.

Do you really want to go down that road? How many have been killed by Crown Victoria rear end explosions (fire ball)  http://crownvictoriasafetyalert.com/

How many cars and trucks burned up as a result of a cruise control switch and even burned homes down when parked inside a garage? http://www.switchfires.com/

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roostierooster855, on 29 February 2012 - 07:11 PM, said:

dude dont even start, go look up the recall list of all the car companies and see who is on top, never said the American companies never had a recall, just one not nearly as stupid and bad.  I mean toyota was just flat out piss poor with saying there was nothing wrong etc pathetic

There still is nothing wrong with Toyotas or accel pedals. Imcompetent driver, yes. Floor may jams in throttle, try moving the shift lever to "N"

Edited by toyota_mdt_tech, 29 February 2012 - 08:14 PM.

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roostierooster855, on 29 February 2012 - 07:08 PM, said:

well depends on what you consider built here, yes chevy has a truck plant in flint Mi and they have another truck plant in mexico.

Is it built in the USA or isn't it?  It's a pretty simple question.

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  Yeah i never see a lawn company use a toyota, im sorry but there a joke, lol i seen some guy towing a camper with a tundra and the thing was saggin a ton.  My friends tow a bigger camper with there f150 and it is not even near as bad, of course we were all ripping on it....

Sagging is all about weight distribution/loading.  I can put a 15k skid loader on a deckover trailer behind my half ton, and it'll sit level.

Not every trailer has the same tongue weight, or even the same weight.  I have a 23' travel trailer that is half the weight of a TH of the same size.

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And all i ever see  the lawn and snow companies use are three quarter ton or one ton trucks to tow and plow allll the time and my bud owns his own and he uses a ram 2500 with a cummings.

You need a CUMMINGS to drag around a lawnmower?

The neighbor kid runs a lawn service with a Honda Civic and a trailer.

As for the plow remark, how many snow removal people use a Sonoma, Ranger, or F150?  Why not?  Because they're not purpose built for that task.

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You need a truck that can with stand towing all the time and also plowing to.  Come on you cant even argue that lawn companies and other companies that need trucks use American trucks usually ford, second most i see is chevy and third dodge.  But yes some of the ford and chevy trucks are built here.

You're comparing apples to oranges.  Putting a half ton Toyota up against a 3/4 or 1 ton truck.

Those trucks all suck, cuz Kenworth smokes them in towing all day long!

  

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Man i guess saying toyota trucks suck is not a good thing to say on here but cant hide the truth, the nissans suck to not only toyota.  They just dont know how to build trucks plain and simple. On top of that i think tundras look like shit, the chevy dodge and ford all look really nice!

When you have nothing more to base your opinion on than your buddy needs a diesel to mow lawns, and they "suck", and "look like shit", of course you're going to get blasted.

Come back to the grown ups discussion when you can spell, punctuate, and learn when to capitalize proper nouns.

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roostierooster855, on 29 February 2012 - 07:11 PM, said:

dude dont even start, go look up the recall list of all the car companies and see who is on top, never said the American companies never had a recall, just one not nearly as stupid and bad.  I mean toyota was just flat out piss poor with saying there was nothing wrong etc pathetic


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How many deaths were linked to the sticky pedal?

Ford's underinflation procedure has been linked to over 250 deaths and over 3,000 injuries, leading to the shutdown of the St Paul Ford assembly plant for weeks so that there were enough tires on hand to replace those damaged due to underinflation.

Ford built a vehicle that had poor ride characteristics, so instead of replacing springs and shocks with something more palatable, their solution was to lower tire pressure to 26 PSI, and if the customer continued to complain, 23 PSI.  I still have the TSB that describes this solution for "Harsh Ride Complaints".

This resulted in ply seperation, heat buildup, and premature tire failure.

Conclusion: Ford tried to blame it on Firestone, stating Firestone didn't make a tire that was durable enough to support a 4k lb vehicle at 75 mph with only 23 psi in it.  

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Yeah! diesel gets more MPG, but consider it costs .60 - .75 cents a gallon more, it defeats the purpose. I'll take my 390 HP 5.7 L stone stock 3/4 Ton Hemi over any Eco-Boost!!!any day... Drive one if you don't believe me.

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kevin nichols, on 02 March 2012 - 06:33 PM, said:

Yeah! diesel gets more MPG, but consider it costs .60 - .75 cents a gallon more, it defeats the purpose. I'll take my 390 HP 5.7 L stone stock 3/4 Ton Hemi over any Eco-Boost!!!any day... Drive one if you don't believe me.

I bet an eco-boost would run right with your truck.....i think you're forgetting they make diesel-like power. Low in the RPM's and 420 lb-ft of torque. Plus, a Hemi in a 3/4 ton is going to have to pull a lot more weight.

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roostierooster855, on 29 February 2012 - 04:02 PM, said:

I really dont care who disagrees with me but the dodge, ford and chevy are the american ones.  The yotas are not designed here i dont think and they will not be nearly ass good.  You even see a lawn and snow service using a foreign pickup, hahahah nooooo.  And what company employs more American jobs? id say the big 3 easily .  Me, i just dont like foreign cars...... sticking gas pedals sry had to say it lol, but that actually killed people..... did you know that

well you sound like you are about as smart as a rock..

the new trucks from all of the big motor companies are not built like they used to be.

the best cummins years were up until the early 2000s.. I wouldnt touch a new one with a stick.

and full size truck + gas does not make sense to me. good diesel motors will always last longer. why do you not see gas kenworths everywhere?

and car payments are a joke. pay cash, buy what you can afford

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n16ht5, on 03 March 2012 - 11:05 AM, said:

and full size truck + gas does not make sense to me. good diesel motors will always last longer. why do you not see gas kenworths everywhere?

In many cases, the gas motors in PU trucks outlast the body, running gear, chassis and driveline nowadays.

Used to be, 100k and a gas engine was on it's last legs.  Now it's just getting broke in.  Very common to see 250k on a gasser, and it's in great shape compression and power wise, with little to no oil consumption.

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Chickenhauler, on 03 March 2012 - 12:07 PM, said:

In many cases, the gas motors in PU trucks outlast the body, running gear, chassis and driveline nowadays.

Used to be, 100k and a gas engine was on it's last legs.  Now it's just getting broke in.  Very common to see 250k on a gasser, and it's in great shape compression and power wise, with little to no oil consumption.

I have two old 22RE Toyota trucks and a honda civic... spare it. the 01 cummins should still outlast them