What's the woodruff key status??
Posted September 30, 2003 - 08:31 PM
Posted October 01, 2003 - 05:16 PM
Posted October 11, 2003 - 10:01 AM
Dont know if this helps but on the yfz450 quad bike a torque limiter as been fitted to one of the idler gears driving the starter clutch.Maybe to take presure off the flywheel when backfiring.What do you think.I can not get any info from yamaha UK on this.My key failed at 400 miles
Posted October 11, 2003 - 10:25 PM
Posted October 12, 2003 - 10:22 PM
Posted October 13, 2003 - 08:48 AM
www.loctite.com/int_henkel/loctite_us/index.cfm?&pageid=19&layout=3 Search for 648 I had a failure at 0 miles and Yamaha replaced the crank and rotor after a little prodding from the dealer so far if a dealer stands up for the customer then Yamaha has replaced both crank and rotor and if you have had a reoccurring problem I would talk to my dealer and Yamaha together and you'll get your bike fixed. If you like I will fax the 5 page service bulletin to anyone that PMs me with a fax number. Remember the only permanent fix is to replace the rotor and the crank (forget the loctite)This is my experience with the dealer: My dealer is a small shop they only got 1 wr last year and 1 for this year which I will buy. The service dept is smaller 1 guy who mostly assembles John Deere equipment, in the summer they add one more so you know they never have had a wr apart. We of course had to wait on the crankshaft and the rotor that took 2 months, as there were none in stock. Ray, the summer guy is about 45 and has worked on motorcycles for years, admitted that he was excited to get to tear the first one down however they had to order a manual. The first day I show up with lunch for the whole service and parts depts, 3 Wendy's combos, 14 bucks, (the parts guy is my contact he sold me the bike in the crate) Ray has the engine apart laying on the table we look over the parts and he says you know I've never got to tear a new one down (the bike had 0 miles as it failed in the drive way) Ray was looking over the instructions about checking the crank to rotor fit and said he didn't have the stuff to do it and he had never done that before, I volunteered to help and supply the stuff which I had. The second day along with my 3 wendy's combos we check the taper and it's good (we measured the tapers trust me if you had problems the crank and rotor need replaced) Ray thanked me for showing him the process, in 20 years he hadn't the opportunity to ever check the crank taper. The third day when I picked up the wr, at lunch of course with 3 wendy's combos in tow) we have had no trouble since. I did have them order the new "slip" gears at 36 bucks cheap insurance. Make friends with these guys it's better that they like you and are working on your bike than think you are an a**hole and working on your bike. For less than 50 bucks and not being an a**hole I am treated like one of the family at the dealership. It also was after that I started getting better discounts on parts.
Posted October 13, 2003 - 02:39 PM
The "Locktite fix" would get me even more pissed off. That solution is the biggest joke. It's just a matter of time before it goes again. If you let Yamaha get away with this, who knows what the next defect will be and how much it's going to cost us all.
Posted October 13, 2003 - 02:52 PM
he thought the loc-tite fix was bull s***, so he bolted it back together. ive ridden this bike all summer, and it has yet to shear a key. i will agree.. if youve had problems, the only sure fix is a new crank and rotor. if you havent had problems.. you probably never will.
Posted October 13, 2003 - 03:01 PM
I'd like to know how many guys have had theirs shear more than once.Maybe that's a good TT Poll?
If it's going to shear again,I want to know!I told my dealer that if my bike gives me one more minute of crap,I will be highly pissed and will be back to see him.
I think Yamaha might be hoping that we will meekly take it in the a$$ now that our warrantys have expired.
If it takes a new crank and flywheel to fix it,then that's what we all should get.Someone earlier mentioned a law suit.
Let's stick together on this until it is resolved.
Posted October 13, 2003 - 03:24 PM
Posted October 13, 2003 - 05:04 PM
BTW – I’m an amateur 45 year old rider. I haven’t really ridden in over 20 years and I stall and abuse the starter more than most probably do (from lack of experience). Who knows though it could go at anytime? Still really love the bike and wouldn’t consider getting rid of it.
Posted October 13, 2003 - 07:39 PM
I don't want to be towing my buddies back, see them walk home or have them worry every time we ride. We shouldn’t have to worry about this if there is a permanent fix. Yamaha should own up and fix this and we should not rest until this is resolved.
I don't want us to set a precedent for future defects. My '04 better be perfect or it's going back, that's the deal.
I want a Yamaha for all the right reasons out there, as well as quality engineering. If these issues start developing, I have no problem switching brands.
Posted October 14, 2003 - 04:58 PM
Posted October 14, 2003 - 06:54 PM
There should be a recall and everyone who wants to take advantage of it, should be able to, no questions asked.
The value of the '03s is going down the toilet. Law suit is the answer imo.
Posted October 15, 2003 - 02:11 PM
We must all stay tuned on this site as collectively we have bargaining power. Where is Yamaha?
I have over 650 miles and just now having starter problems with a "dead spot". Has anyone else had same?
It is such a shame that Yamaha is blowing this market opportunity as this is the most stable trail bike I have ever ridden. I spilled many more times on XR's. The WR450 power is also perfect for the trail. My times are enormously improved. What a dilemma we are in.
Yes reliablity is of major importance and we do expect quality from Yamaha.
Keep us informed of your situation....
Posted October 15, 2003 - 02:36 PM
Posted October 16, 2003 - 07:15 AM
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