Sick of motocross - anyone agree??
Posted July 25, 2001 - 03:02 AM
I am sick and tired of motocross!! It is pathetic nowadays!! You pay 30 dollars (35 in our case) and if your lucky, you get 10 laps throughout the day, which equals about 15 mintues!! What a rip-off!
I used to race motocross in 1999 when I first got my KX250, and my dad did too. It was our first year of racing - so we were excited to do it. Throughout the year, we became more and mroe frustrated with the riding time...the tracks, and the way they are managed. The riders are treated like crap.
I want to say that they need LESS CLASSES!!!!! The tracks have something like 20-25 "motos" and obviously 2 motos each class. Now...if each class took 15 mintues until the last person got off the track, thats a minimum of 5 hours for the first round of motos. It was not uncommon for us to get to the track at 10 am, and not leave until 7-8 at night!! Thats insane for 8 racing laps and 2 practice laps - and 35 bucks!
You don't need a 125A, 125B, 125C, 250A, 250B, 250C, 80cc, 85cc, VetA, VetB, VetC, Schoolboy, College boy, equal as many quad classes, and Minis, and Super Minis!!!!!!!!! Combine the freaking classes!
Run quads on Saturday, bikes on Sunday (or vice versa).
Also, these 4 lap motos are pathetic. Go to half hour + 2 laps like it used to be in the 70's. Back when it was a real tough sport - not a 4 lap sprint.
Track maintenace is PATHETIC!! Here, Sleepy Hollow and Pine Grove are TERRIBLE in their track maintenance. Back in 2000 there, dad and I went to Sleepy Hollow, and we had just had the remnants of a major thunderstorm the night before. Dumped I think 4 inches of rain! Well, the boneheads were out watering the track before a single bike or quad TOUCHED the track!!! It was so muddy, they cut off almost 1/4 of the track (it was unridable) and guess what....they watered it after the first set of motos. Almost 75% of the quads and minis were STUCK in the first turn, and even the big bikes had trouble making it through. When we as the riders complained...the one "official" just told us "This IS motocross...". What a bunch of BS!! Motocross was 30 minute motos, fairly well maintained traccks, NOT riding through a MUD HOLE for 35 dollars and 10 hours of time to get 8 laps!!!!!!!!!!!!
We no longer will race motocross. It is an insult to the sport anymore. We run Hare Scrambles here at Pine Grove, and love them. 2 hours of RACING is worth it. The track is obviously not "maintained" as it is 5 miles long....but it makes it nice. When it rains...we like it even more.
A word to motocross promoters, and teh AMA if need be....CUT THE CRAP with amateur motocross. This is a SPORT, lets make it back into one.
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Posted July 25, 2001 - 03:51 AM
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Posted July 25, 2001 - 05:11 AM
Practice days are only $15, not $35, and you get all the laps you want, in as short a time as you like. I always show up when the track opens, so I get the best prep. I'm done riding within 2-3 hours total time at the track. You ride more, get in better shape, and can go faster longer when you do race.
Dirtdad, we need all kinds of tracks to keep everyone happy.
Posted July 25, 2001 - 05:26 AM
Where do you ride there? Perhaps if you're in the area riding, we'll bump into each other then.....so long as it's not when you pass me.
I can't say I hate the design of the tracks...but I do wish there were more outdoor style FAST tracks, not these slow jumpy tracks. I like the jumps and the speed
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Posted July 25, 2001 - 06:25 AM
Ride 'till Your blisters fall off.
Posted July 25, 2001 - 06:36 AM
Check out www.proride.com if you haven't already. It has listing of the local tracks. The ones you mentioned in your post are a must!! I ride mostly at Elsinore out of personal preference but there are many others around that are really good. If you go to any of the tracks on a weekend definately try to get there when the gates open cause by 11:00 they are crowded unless it's real hot. Comp park offers night riding under lights which is pretty cool and I would recommend it since it's summer and still nice and warm durning the evening. I think they run till 10PM but check that site for the info. Shoot me an email or post a reply if you plan on riding a weekend day somewhere and maybe I can join up with you guys. I'm always up for a trip to Elsinore on a sat. or Sun. morning as long as my knee isn't sore.
"It's a Yellow 99' YZ400!!"
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Posted July 25, 2001 - 06:52 AM
$10 gate fee
$40 ($20 per class times 2)
Total fees: $50 (for 4 motos)
But then you have to subtract the expert payout in +40 expert. Usually I grab about $50 for my 4th/5th place finish. Somedays I have even gone home with $70 "extra" bucks in my pocket. And when I'm on a roll I can't afford NOT TO RIDE. You have to remember that the object of motocross is to become an expert. And riding one class or complaining about tracks (that you should be avoiding in the first place) is not going to get you there. I'm 50 now. Rode my first motocross when I was 39 years old. If I can do it I'm sure anybody can.
Yeah, I was a hare scrambles rider before moto. Actually my first "event" ever was at a Pine Grove HS 23 years ago! Never was a real hare scrambles course by any means, but a really fun place to ride. I can remember leaving my 1976 IT175 on the line and running into the bar for a quick draft moments before the flagman sent us off. Crazy place and a crazy time. Glad that's all behind me now. Say, do they STILL have a bar on that track?
Posted July 25, 2001 - 06:54 AM
Ken....yes there is still a bar.
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Posted July 25, 2001 - 07:18 AM
Have you ridden Happy Ramblers in Hanover. It runs district 6 & 7 events. The track prep is some of the best I've ever seen. Come down on August 4th. Their having an open practice day....first ever.
Your right about the moto count but, if we are to promote our sport we do have to make some concessions. You need multiple level classes (A, B, C) and and enough bike size range classes for the different bikes. I would like to see them eleminate the schoolboy and college boy classes. There's enough other classes for them to compete in.
Due to lack of a class (Senior C) I'll be forced to race my first ever MX race against the kids in the VET C class or run with the fast geezers in Senior A/B, I'm 42
Oh well it could be worse. I could be like some of my friends sitting front of the boob-tube wishing I had a life.
Use the email addy in my profile if you like to hook up or get more info about the 4th.
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Posted July 25, 2001 - 08:28 AM
I live in Northern, Va and I heard about that open practice. Any idea how far Happy R. is from Sterling, Va? Basically, it's just outside D.C.......... I would like to ride with anyone willing to make the trip out. I've never ridden the track and I'm looking for all of the riding areas that I can find. A Thumpertalk get together would be the bomb. Anyone have a couple of canope's they'd like to bring along?
Posted July 25, 2001 - 10:10 AM
I hosted a TT ride in June and will do another next spring. The track is in Hanover, check Yahoo. I would guess about 2-3 hours, send me an email and we'll talk.
I have a 10 x 10 canopy and will bring it. I have another 10 x 12 if needed.
Posted July 25, 2001 - 10:12 AM
Don't blame me if you decide to move to SoCal by the time you get back home.
Posted July 25, 2001 - 10:51 AM
Scott, for the past couple of years I've been making the trek out to the So. Cal area to do the Glen Helen National. Compared to the East Coast, I'm diggin' So. Cal's energy. I hear that San Diego is a big MX community. If only the cost of living were a little more reasonable. Scott, what do you think of San Clarita, just North on the 5 of LA........good place to live? Thanks for your input......
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Posted July 25, 2001 - 06:18 PM
Sounds like you live here in AZ. from your description.
To add to the cost I also have to belong to the local promoters organization at $35 a year.
I joined up with the Az Oldtimers in hopes that we will get enough members to throw our weight (entrys) around and make the promoters give us longer motos.
One good thing here is that there are alot of new tracks starting up and maybe these owners will give us better prep, longer motos and not be so greedy!
Posted July 25, 2001 - 08:36 PM
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