GPR V's Scotts
Posted September 20, 2003 - 03:43 PM
Posted September 20, 2003 - 10:18 PM
Posted September 21, 2003 - 03:39 PM
Posted September 21, 2003 - 08:05 PM
With Soctts dampers, the low speed setting affects the high speed inversly. The more dampening on low speed, the less on high speed and vice versa (internally something changes) so if you crank up the low when the going gets fast, you lose some of the high. The high has a seperate knob also. gpr, high and low both one knob, both affected the same when adjusting. Why is the gpr unit cheaper?? It has a lot fewer internal parts and machining. Scotts has high and low speed, gpr one speed. Scotts has adjustable sweep control, gpr fixed. Scotts offroad models dampen away from center only (this is supposed to lessen armpump), gpr dampens both ways. Scotts has 20 or 30 clicks af adjustment on the low speed, gpr has 6. There are a lot of springs and check balls inside the scotts that are not in the gpr. gpr comes with a great big knob, Scotts charges extra for the big Knob. gpr will rebuild and update their damper for free (uses 10 wt fork oil), Scotts charges for this service (uses 2.5 wt fork oil). They are both very high quality units that accomplish the same thing in very different ways.
I have ridden with both and can not really tell any difference. I have the Scotts on now. I run it two full turns out (about 20 clicks). It feels like there is nothing there, until I hit the rocks or sand. I rode without it a few weeks ago and was shocked at how squirrly the bike was in the rocky sand washes here in AZ (mm-11). The same washes are like freeways with it back on the bike.
gpr had a short run of leak issues. They have long since been fixed. Randy Norman is a stand up guy and believes in great customer service. He also has a new damper out. Instead of mounting on top of a bar clamp, it is the bar clamp. It lets you use a standard fat bar pad. It will raise the bars between 3/4" and 1" depending on the bike, so if you have CR high bend bars and like the height you would have to get low bends to make the height the same. The only downside to this mew damper is it is bike specific, as it is made to replace the stock bar clamp. If you buy a DH1 top triple clamp and new style damper also, the next time you switch bikes all you would need is a new top clamp as all DH1 clamps have the same mouning holes for the bar clamp.
Sorry for being so long.
Posted September 25, 2003 - 06:32 PM
Posted September 26, 2003 - 06:19 AM