WR versus KDX220R
Posted September 20, 2003 - 04:16 AM
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Posted September 21, 2003 - 04:01 PM
I ride a lot of tight single track and the big 400 beats me up.
Posted September 22, 2003 - 12:04 PM
To me, a kdx is a good old thing from the past like air-cooled XRs are. They are bullet proof, easy to ride and it is true that a KDX is wonderfull in really thight woods or technical hill climbing.
That said, I will never buy one of these machines again. The reason is simple. You will easily find bikes that have better suspension, better ergos, better power, et cetera.
I think that you should remove the KDX from your options. If you want a two stroker that holds goog tight stuff: get the KTM 200 EXC. The more this bike finds owners, the more it becomes a reference.
If you get a WR, whatever it is a 250 or a 4xx, prepare yourself to ride aggresively. The bike does not allow you to easy go when difficulties come. My WR does not like me when I take the time to check if the drop is too low or if that dead three is too high or if that bump is too hard or if that mud hole is too deep. With a WR you have to calculate that the bike will reward you if you take the risk and ride aggressively: it is a totally different ride with a KDX. With the WR, you face a drop: jump into it! You face a dead three: pump a wheelie! You see a bump: jump over it! Mud hole: Gas!. That is a bike on which I learn to become more aggresive at riding and makes me become faster.
You will improve much more on a WR than on a KDX.
Hope that helps.
Give us some news when you have your new bike
Posted September 22, 2003 - 01:29 PM
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Posted September 22, 2003 - 03:33 PM
I have a 01WR250F, 01YZ250F and a KDX200. Under race (HS) conditions, pitting the KDX against a WR or YZ is no contest. The KDX needs a pipe to wake it up (mine has an FMF) but it still only has one eye open compared to the WR (with the free mods and 03 YZcam). The suspension on the KDX is out of the stone age. With the stock suspension, it will endo on the first set of sand whoops you hit at speed. The KDX ergos are horrible (well to be fair my WR has YZ style seat and tank, stock 01-02 WR ergos are also bad).
The KDX is a great trail bike for beginners, or as a buddy bike, and are good for the inseam challenged. They are really reliable, very forgiving, and inexpensive. But they are not performance machines with the latest technology like the YZ/WRs. The KDX hasn't changed since 1996!
I have a friend who trail rides his KDX very fast, but he lusts after a WR (too broke to upgrade). I know some people like Jeff Fredette make racers out of them, but after you fork over the thousands of dollars it takes to do that, you might as well have bought a WR (or 200EXC, if you like small bore 2 strokes).
Both my YZ and WR have to be out of commission before I even think of riding the KDX. Which is what may happen to me this weekend, if my parts don't get here in the mail. Its an ugly prospect for me.
Posted September 22, 2003 - 03:41 PM
Posted September 22, 2003 - 04:21 PM
Posted September 22, 2003 - 05:09 PM
When you say intermediate trail rider, I think B enduro rider (AA=pro, A=expert, B=intermediate, C=novice, D=beginner). If so, you don't want a KDX unless money is a big issue or unless you are very short.
I agree, big difference between a B-intermediate and someone who rode a few years ago and is getting back into it. When I got back into riding (I stopped for about 5 years), I figured "I know how to ride okay, I'm no beginner". BIG mistake. I entered a race in the C class and finished second last. It's taken me two years since that and I still probably wouldn't place in the C class although I would do a lot better.
Posted September 22, 2003 - 09:50 PM
Posted September 22, 2003 - 10:40 PM
The KDX is 10year old technology (if not older)the front suspension is non existent.
The KDX is a great bike for first time riders.
And I have owned both