WR450 or EXC 450?
Posted September 19, 2003 - 03:12 PM
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Posted September 19, 2003 - 06:15 PM
The WR may be the best bang for the money
But then if you add up all the top of the line components, it's a matter of personnal choice. $=$
But the availability of the parts is also very important.
Posted September 20, 2003 - 05:39 AM
2003 KTM=Green Sticker
2003 wr450=red sticker
critical if you want to dual sport
Posted September 20, 2003 - 06:14 AM
I think the difference in price is actually about $800. The KTM comes with and exhust system that is good and good bars, and a few other extras. Some of this stuff your gonna have to add to your WR sooner or later. So that really brings the cost closer to each other.
Hope that helps.
Posted September 20, 2003 - 06:21 AM
I think even my WR426 has more punch but his feels smoother. I also really like the 6 speed for higher top end for washes and roads.
He does have to do more maintenance than I do but it's a very nice bike.
Posted September 20, 2003 - 08:27 PM
I've only ridden two ktm's before, a 125 and 450sx and I really liked them. I don't see why everyone says they feel so weird to ride. I really liked the feel. I could get way forward on the bike easily. It did feel a lot different than my Yamaha but so does every bike, even other Yamahas, its all set up IMO. The suspension wasn't as good on the KTM but thats because both were custom valved for 200 pound riders and my Yamaha is sprung perfectly for me at 160.
Posted September 21, 2003 - 07:04 AM
For the record, I'm on the second plug in 2 years, the old ones looked fine yet I replaced 'em anyway. Other than oil changes, filter cleaning and greasing I've done nothing else except the free mods and YZ timing and jetting. BTW the needle and jet were very cheap.
Personally I'd get the WR, perform the free mods, change the handlebars and ride.
I have on several occasions wished I had a sixth gear like my WR Husky's. But the WR's don't seem to mind the higher RPM's in fifth. I guess I could go down on the rear sprocket if I wanted to, I'm sure it would help my unusable first gear.
Posted September 21, 2003 - 01:42 PM
I'm sure it would help my unusable first gear.
Unusable? Is it too slow or something?
Posted September 21, 2003 - 05:59 PM
One of the big things to consider is your local dealer for each machine. Both bikes are good machines that fill a little different nich so in the end look at parts and support you will get.
Posted September 23, 2003 - 08:28 PM
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Posted September 24, 2003 - 04:43 AM
Ken Murphy, who you met on the 500, has a 2004 WR450 on order. None are in the stores yet so no one has ridden one yet.
Posted September 24, 2003 - 06:58 AM
I second the opinion above. If you were buying the bike for the woods, you may need to think about it, but you say you are buying the bike for the desert, I say no brainer, GO BLUE! If you really like KTM, and desert is where you are going, look at one of the bigger bikes.
Posted September 24, 2003 - 07:37 AM
Parts are JUST as easy to get for the KTM as they are the Yamaha, and are sometimes CHEAPER for the same part. Information seems MORE available for the KTM. Quality is better on the KTM. KTM also has a 30 day factory warranty. Also, KTM really seems to stand behind there product, and fix glaring problems at NO charge. Two more words about the KTM: hydraulic clutch -priceless.
KTM is one of the most dependable bikes made, but if the Yamaha is properly set up and maintained, I would say equally dependable.
The suspension on my Yamaha is MUCH better than my KTM. Although, in '04 the KTM is supposed to be much better. The Yamaha definitely has more punch, and turns tighter. The center of gravity is a little higher on my Yamaha, but standing is also more comforatable for me on the Yamaha.
You are in a real dilemma, but if there is a true answer, I think it may lie in resale. Check around, but in Reno Nevada the KTM's bring a higher resale.
Good LucK and either way you go is the right way - there is no poor choice here.
Posted September 24, 2003 - 09:43 PM
Applied 18mm off-set triple clamps, Clark tank for more fuel capacity, Gutts seat so my hemroids don't flair up, different tires, Race-Tech suspension setup w/Gold valves and, Scotts damper. Is it possible that I have left something off the list. Probably! Would I ever consider getting a WR again? Yes. But, the best feature of the KTM, at least for me, is the CA Green Sticker.
Posted September 26, 2003 - 06:19 AM
This is however the Blue part of the world