dgcars said:

You can ride on a "flat" though. The tire is flat, but TUbliss is still @ 110psi and holding the bead (and sidewall!) tight, 360 degrees to the rim.

Just curious, have you guys used TUbliss? I only have 12 rides on mine, but just finished a long bar discussion with my buddy tonight. He has beat the his original to death in GNCC, CRA, and a few other off-road series and it is still going strong after a full year.

Maybe I'll get him to chime in...he's a member here.

4strokes_rule said:

Obviously they haven't.

How often do you get 2" tire cuts? I've logged hundreds of hours on really tough terrain and never had that happen. The number one source of flats is nailing a rock or sharp edge and pinching the tube. With TUbliss, that goes away. Distant second is punctures, which I can fix in about the same time as taking a piss. Big tears? Still waiting for that to happen.

Oh, did I mention that Tubliss is lighter and improves traction. The system is a little fussy and you have to follow the instructions, but once it's dialed, pretty much trouble free.

Granted...getting a large cut in a tyre doesn't happen that often.  Only once this year and only twice all last year.

My own personal experience with tubliss....the second occassion when it happened last year was the last time I ran that system.  Back to BiB's after that.

By the way, Bryawn, this forum isn't a pissing contest.  We are here to give an opinion based on our own experience, so please, don't tell me that I "obviously haven't" had that experience.

dgcars said:

I'm not even sure how this thread got to the subject of Tubliss in the first place:excuseme:

Nutech Tubliss system. I race enduro and harescramble A class and these work very well. They last a long time im on two seasons now. Only downfall is sometimes in real rocky conditions the rear tire carcus will tear and they will go flat but ive finished several races on a flat no problem. Very durable

Billyw said:

I'm not even sure how this thread got to the subject of Tubliss in the first place

dgcars said:

My rims would get me back from 25 miles. Because there's no way in hell I'm walking it..

Tmall said:

Ha Ha.....I like to get back in 1st place, not last.  

NorCal said:

That's kind of what i'm thinkin because the OP clearly stated he was looking for a "bullet proof" system.

CCC4 said:

In that case, just fill the tire full of rocks. Probably ride about the same.   

Just offering up that in my experience, TUbliss is pretty darn close to bullet proof.  Honestly, I never been left stranded and I've never had my tire suffer any more damage than the occasional puncture. To each his own.

ive got 2 sets of rims and both have tubliss.

i got tired of buying moose hd's every week, so this seemed cheeper in the long run. ivhave them on for 2 seasons now. ive ridden the better part of an 80 mile enduro on a flat rear and couldnt really tell aside from the noise of a flat tire. riding that far will ruin a tubliss, but i did get 2nd overall B that day.

that said ive had 1 dnf due to a flat and another time i was the overall and had a flat front that was slowing me down after 3 laps in the lead and ended pulling off due to a coolant loss. i could have fixed the flats if i had a good way of finding the leak both times.

tubliss is a great system and ill keep running it and the company is great to work with as well. if your looking for indestructable though id go with BIB's.
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I had a tubliss in the front of my 250XCW.  Love it for trail riding, let me air way down and the bike felt like it was on rails in the single track.  Started desert racing this year.  Tubliss was at 9 psi and flatted on a rock hit.  I took it apart and it broke the tubliss system where the valve stem goes to the rim and is supposed to hold the seal.  It may have got cracked after riding 11 miles on the flat?  Don't know.  I was able to finish the race, but could've done a 4th lap and upped my overall, as I had already won my class.

I took it out and put in the HD tube.  Running 15psi since I reaaaaaallllllyyyy don't want a flat in a race again.  Definitely feel the rocks, but didn't flat in the last race last Sunday.  My racing is faster desert stuff in D-38 in socal.

FWIW, the tire did stay on the rim well after the flat with Tubliss, but I was way down on speed for the last 11 miles.  I could definitely feel it was flat.

baby powder is key to anything...seriously baby powder is a dry lubricant that will keep you bib, balls, or tube from chafing...i run ultra HD tube front and rear and put new in every season as well as put a splash of baby powder inside the wheel every tire change...just put it in side the tire befor installing tube and roll it around a little...be sure there is a little extra in there then once your tire and tube are completly on the wheel roll it around again...you will be amazed how much difference it makes...you can do this for bibs and balls as well...give it a try

Takes a bit more lub for a bib. Powder won't do it, I think tire balls take the same tube of silicone lub. Makes for a messy job when you take them out. I've heard of some other stuff that can work but as much as they cost I'm staying with the bib lub.

I was a winning A rider and ran the NueTech Tubliss system for two racing seasons and never had a flat.

I could run 8 pounds of pressure and never slow down for rocks and trees. No dented rims either.

The heavy-duty tubes make the brakes work harder to stop and the wheels heavier which effects how the wheels follow the ground and how the forks work.

Mousse need to be changed once a season, but the Tubliss went through multiple tires and two seasons without a issue.

The only issue with Tubliss was the initial install. I used soap on the inner tube and always checked pressure before I loaded up.

NorCal said:

MathProf said:

Read the OP's original post......

MathProf said:

dgcars said:

Haha, all good man. Thanks for the feedback guys.

I've been running Tubliss off and on and have had my issues with them. I dented
my rear rim and Honey Lake running an MX51 at 13psi. One thing I didn't realize
is the Tubliss system really isn't designed to work well with soft sidewall, MX
tires. The owner of Tubliss, Jeff, is one of the best guys in our industry. He
set me up with a Dunlop rally tire up front and a 739 desert tire in the rear. The
front was set at 5 psi and the rear was set to 4.

I was extremely hesitant to try this setup and really just took is word for it. I'm
a very aggressive rider and tend to smash over rocks, roots and nasty terrain.

I raced an extremely dusty, challenging 2 hour and 15 minute cross country.
The feel of the bike going over nasty terrain was like floating on a cloud. The
front tire felt really good and planted even on slippery terrain.

My goal for the year was to break the top 20 overall and finish 3rd or better. I
managed to achieve that goal by finishing 15th overall and 2nd place in A open.

That finish has really boosted my confidence in Tubliss. I'm going to stick with
them.

That's good to know. I've got a set of tubliss waiting for my next tire change. I ended up going with that because I didn't want something that I would have to keep replacing. I suppose it wouldn't be an issue if I was racing competitively and wanted to devote more of my budget to it, but for how I ride Tubliss sounded like the best option for me.

Good job with your racing, too!

We have tried Mousses, Tubliss, and Heavy Duty tubes.  Hands down the Tire Balls was the answer for us.  Didn't like rotational mass and weight of the Mousses it was like riding with two very low tire, however they are the most reliable and flat proof,  Heavy Duty tubes still are a gamble and have a higher failure rate and not good for racing,  Tubliss works really well but still uses a tube to hold the bead to the tire and have a single point of failure.  Tubliss seems to be good solution since the tube that is used doesn't get the same abuse as the tire tube.  After using all of the solutions we decided to use TB and found to have more benefits that the others and not a single point of failure.  Although mounting is like putting in Mousses, you are able to adjust tire pressure if you need to, and the balls give a more consistent feeling unlike the other solutions including the plain ole tubes.  TBs are lighter and provide a noticeable benefit to the suspension and traction.  TBs are also the higher priced of all the solutions, which seems to be the only negative we could find.

762SPR said:

What tires do you plan on running with them?