2012 250SX Horsepower


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  • motoxhead

Posted 10 August 2011 - 11:46 AM

#21

moto119 said:

Correct.  Current issue of MXA.  So that was my initial question.  Does this pipe/silencer combo allow the bike to pull into the up rev ranges without a major drop off typical of just about any 2T MX bike.  Or do you still need to grab the next gear to keep it in the meat of the powerband.  Says it basically changes nothing from 0 to peak HP but increases HP POST-peak by 7 HP or basically keeps the same HP for a bit longer.  How does this translate into actual performance?

For the previous RM250 rider, thats the 2T I currently own, a 2005 RM250.  So you are saying while this bike is significantly better, it is not going to be a game changer as far as the powerband is concerned.  Correct?


Well, let me put it this way.  My friend has an RM250 06 that is ported, polished, Wiseco-Piston, Pro-Circuit system, Hinson Clutch system and Vforce reeds.  It is very fast, but my 12' KTM250sx feels as fast or faster completely stock.

The comment at being a game changer was focused on your reference to feeling like a 450 four-stroke, etc.  If you like your RM250,then you will love the KTM. You just won't hop on it and feel like you've never ridden anything close.

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  • moto119

Posted 10 August 2011 - 12:16 PM

#22

Thanks for that feedback.  Just what I was looking for.  Now I gotta decision to make.

  • Mikeee P

Posted 12 August 2011 - 12:35 AM

#23

Thanks so much for the reply. My post got so twisted up I was basically trying to ask if it was in the over-rev area... gee it was easy to write just then! haha

I will tell you this... over-rev isn't a bad thing! (agreeing with you).

If you really get up into the over-rev area when you shift the bike doesn't drop down as far so chances are it's up in the meat of the powerband. If you're racing whether woods/motocross when you need that last little bit coming up to a jump face, or into a turn without having to shift because sometimes you just can't because you're too close to the jump/corner etc... so that over-rev can be very nice!

I have to tell you the numbers the new KTM 250SX are putting down ARE the numbers that full mod 250 two strokes put down. What an unbelievable engine!

Mikeee P

  • tk2stroke

Posted 14 August 2011 - 02:53 PM

#24

tsarbar said:

I've ridden it with and without the pipe and silencer mentioned.  

With the stock parts there was a strong hit just about halfway into the powerband that tapered off on top.

The new stuff is night and day different from the mid point on.....there's plenty of over-rev to work with a smoother overall feel.

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Were you able to use the stock plastic silencer mounting system, so do you need to use whats provided by PC?

  • tk2stroke

Posted 15 August 2011 - 09:43 AM

#25

what changes did you make to the Jetting?

  • autorodtechnologies

Posted 22 August 2011 - 07:17 PM

#26

I rode one of these today and absolutely loved it, my 09 YZ450 is now up for sale so I can go buy one of these.. Power was great, handling was better than my yz..

  • tk2stroke

Posted 22 August 2011 - 07:58 PM

#27

autorodtechnologies said:

I rode one of these today and absolutely loved it, my 09 YZ450 is now up for sale so I can go buy one of these.. Power was great, handling was better than my yz..

Another convert, you wont be sorry.  The 2-stroke will rise again!

  • andrew34

Posted 22 August 2011 - 08:08 PM

#28

tdrewk said:

Another convert, you wont be sorry.  The 2-stroke will rise again!

:)

  • jokerflingo

Posted 23 August 2011 - 03:11 AM

#29

I love my two strokes and fours but do you guys ever get sick of mixing gas all the time as i seem to always be mixing it for my little ktm 85 :)

  • BDubb106

Posted 23 August 2011 - 03:23 AM

#30

jokerflingo said:

I love my two strokes and fours but do you guys ever get sick of mixing gas all the time as i seem to always be mixing it for my little ktm 85 :lol:

It gets old for me from time to time but as soon as I kick the bike over and hear the pinger scream I tend to forget all about the fact that I had to mix the gas. :)

In reality its not much different than gassing up a 4 stroke, pour said amount of oil in can, add gas and go ride. Takes 2 secs and no more work than it does to go fill my can of straight gas for the thumper.

On topic, when it comes time for me to get a new race bike, after all the reading Ive done on the new KTMs, the yz 250 will probably be replaced by one of them there "new pumpkins":worthy: Awesome bikes! Seems like KTM is on the ball.

  • autorodtechnologies

Posted 23 August 2011 - 04:21 AM

#31

I'd rather mix my oil any day than change my oil in my yz every two days on the track. Mixing is a breeze. I have sealed maxima mixer, i always keep it filled to the 5 gallon mark. when the can's emptied I dump it in and get 5 gallons of gas.
I have a kx 2-stroke as well, but going to try to hang on to that one for a back up.

Anybody want a yz?

  • birdland101

Posted 31 August 2011 - 05:53 PM

#32

Want more power then get a Eric Gorr 300cc kit for the RM250.

  • autorodtechnologies

Posted 31 August 2011 - 06:17 PM

#33

Rm250??

  • hardhitwarrior

Posted 16 May 2012 - 11:40 AM

#34

NSF3537, on 09 August 2011 - 10:13 AM, said:

A pipe and silencer will not give you a 7 HP increase. A pipe will move the pwer around but does not give HP increase. Porting and head work with a pipe will increase H.P.

although true, doesnt the pipe and silencer make the motor "breathe" and unvail the true power/fullest power the stock motor has?

iv heared the silencer is the one that limits thepower somehow on KTMs.

  • NSF3537

Posted 18 May 2012 - 11:08 AM

#35

hardhitwarrior, on 16 May 2012 - 11:40 AM, said:

although true, doesnt the pipe and silencer make the motor "breathe" and unvail the true power/fullest power the stock motor has?

iv heared the silencer is the one that limits thepower somehow on KTMs.

Sometimes an aftermarket pipe helps, sometimes not. 2 strokes are typically mid to top end machines as far as where your bike come alive. The pipe may smooth out that power or move it depending on what you are looking for. Dont believe rumors of 7 hp increases. Your best money is spent in porting as far as the engine goes.

  • 32:1

Posted 18 May 2012 - 10:53 PM

#36

Everyone is being pretty clear about this.  The PC pipe certainly DOES NOT give 7HP at the peak. It maintains the peak horsepower longer.  1000rpm PAST the peak there is a 7HP improvement.  Not faster, easier to ride.  No matter how much they like Mitch, MXA isn't just making this stuff up.




 
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