06-09 GYTR Off-Road FW.


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  • johnny6speed

Posted June 07, 2011 - 04:06 PM

#1

http://www.yamaha-mo...5/0/detail.aspx

12 hours on OE unit and I just installed this one today. This should be done ASAP. Got to ride a few hours this afternoon at my riding spot and trail loop, then for about 30 mins on my turn track at home.

I immediately noticed off idle, it was far smoother. The engine vibrated less, and it was a very positive feeling. I had a huge grin on my face about a mile into the loop as I noticed I could run a gear higher and lug it to my hearts content. This is why I wanted a large displacement 4 stroke! Large improvement in chugability for such small dollars. Everything else in regards to drivetrain is OE.

It could be placebo effect but, at both places, I noticed a reasonable traction increase. My riding loop has at this time 10% sand/ 10% hardmud/ 80% hardpack.

Being in my age bracket, and the time of year, the "Wedding Circuit" begins this weekend. So, my riding time will be limited in the coming week, and that makes me feel like this. :ride::banghead::lol::banghead::lol:

  • RiderX

Posted June 07, 2011 - 05:03 PM

#2

I'm thinking of getting one myself, but I'm not sure how much it will benefit me since I have a Rekluse.

  • grayracer513

Posted June 07, 2011 - 05:37 PM

#3

The Rekluse can and will prevent most episodes of stalling, but the flywheel will add smoothness to the engine's low speed pull at speeds above the point where the Rekluse locks up. They compliment each other very well, and I think you'll notice a difference.

  • Gunner354

Posted June 07, 2011 - 08:43 PM

#4

I'm thinking of getting one myself, but I'm not sure how much it will benefit me since I have a Rekluse.


Don't waste your money.

  • RiderX

Posted June 08, 2011 - 06:19 AM

#5

Don't waste your money.



Can you elaborate?

  • johnny6speed

Posted June 08, 2011 - 06:23 AM

#6

but the flywheel will add smoothness to the engine's low speed pull at speeds


^^^ This. ^^^ :ride:

Just keep in mind that this is a tuning tool that can be added for 100 bucks and 20 mins of your time. And if you don't like it, I'm sure it would be an easy sell. Well worth it, Id imagine even with a Rekluse.

  • grayracer513

Posted June 08, 2011 - 06:39 AM

#7

Don't waste your money.


Can you elaborate?


Good old Gunner. He's in the minority, but at least he's consistent.

  • WB450

Posted June 08, 2011 - 07:09 AM

#8

I have both and love the combo.

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  • RiderX

Posted June 08, 2011 - 07:12 AM

#9

I do plan on getting the 9.21oz FWW. I added a FWW to my 06 YZ250F and it helped a lot with the stalling issue, but I didn't have a Rekluse on that bike. I would think the Rekluse adds a little FWW effect since it's a little heavier than the stock set up, but it's not directly on the crank so I'm not sure to what extent, if at all.

  • grayracer513

Posted June 08, 2011 - 08:10 AM

#10

I would think the Rekluse adds a little FWW effect since it's a little heavier than the stock set up, but it's not directly on the crank so I'm not sure to what extent, if at all.

It is heavier, but its contribution to rotating inertia is minimal for the following reasons:

  • It turns more then 2.5 times slower than the engine, and rotating inertia increases or decreases exponentially with speed.
  • In order for the inertia to help keep the engine turning, the stored energy in the spinning mass has to be delivered back to the crankshaft. The problem here is that when the clutch tries to drive the crank, it has to do so through an "overdrive" gear ratio, which cuts the applied force the crank sees by over 250%.


  • Gunner354

Posted June 08, 2011 - 08:33 AM

#11

Good old Gunner. He's in the minority, but at least he's consistent.


The reason most people install a fww is to prevent stalling. The Rekluse eliminates that plus added a few advantages.
The flywheel weight smoothes the power at low end. If you want that there are many cheaper ways. Jetting etc.
Gray I took that as an attack and I believe that is not tolerated any longer. Maybe BB would like to read this.

  • grayracer513

Posted June 08, 2011 - 09:13 AM

#12

Jetting will not decrease the tendency for each successive compression stroke to slow the engine at low RPM, nor will a Rekluse clutch at any RPM above its engagement point. A flywheel does. But you're entitled to your opinion.

  • RiderX

Posted June 08, 2011 - 10:49 AM

#13

Gray I took that as an attack and I believe that is not tolerated any longer. Maybe BB would like to read this.


I hope this was sarcasm.

  • Schpenxel

Posted June 08, 2011 - 11:12 AM

#14

Agreed.

  • rmunch44

Posted June 08, 2011 - 12:58 PM

#15

I first put the GYTR 9 oz. fww on my 07 yz450 late last year and loved what it did for me on the trails. Last month I installed the Rekluse exp 2.0. Wow, the combo is working great. The only issue is that I'm faster and I'm starting to scare myself. :ride:

  • johnny6speed

Posted June 18, 2011 - 05:55 AM

#16

Wanted to follow up after putting another 5 hours on it. Between my turn track behind the house, ramming through the bush, riding my short 15+ min harescramble type loop, this in-expensive tuning part is WORTH IT.

In the past 5 hours I've noticed I'm carrying a bit more corner speed as I am not anxious about feathering the clutch mid-corner. I can now focus more on elbows up, grip with lower body, body position, and accelerating much harder out of the corners. And with more corner speed I am heavier on the brakes.

Long story short, its helped me get faster, made the bike smoother, more traction(placebo effect slightly??) more gear/rpm flexability, and more riding enjoyment.

The interesting part is, when I re-read the above statements, a Rekluse would make it infinity times better! Time to increase the money being set aside for one!

  • RiderX

Posted June 18, 2011 - 12:42 PM

#17

I just got back from a ride on mine after I installed the 9.21 FWW. Made a nice difference.





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