Maico 700
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maico760
, Nov 25 2010 07:54 PM
98 replies to this topic
Posted 26 November 2010 - 02:38 AM
I want one so bad and I'm returning back to the U.S. in February for retiremnent and want to buy a new 2 stroke...So far it's either a Service Honda CR 500 or a KTM 300XCW but I'd love to have a Maico 700 (If I could get one and have a good supply of parts...I know Maico was supposed to make a reapperance in the U.S. two years ago but I think that has fallen through...From what I've read it's a tiny operation in Europe...
Any new info on Maico's return to the U.S. ?
Any new info on Maico's return to the U.S. ?
Posted 26 November 2010 - 05:09 AM
Thanks for the info...
We'll see if this company U.S. CompanyDirtWurx who builds MX tracks can
be a real importer providing bikes, parts, support other than
trackside at a few locations...Hope so...Bet not....
Why the heck can't the family in Germany that own everything get
their act together..They're missing out on a huge opportunity..
Look at the huge success of KTM 2 strokes..And now the realization
by some of the Japanese mfgrs. that they bailed on 2 strokes and
that was a mistake..Watching enduro racing form SouthAfrica
the other day and most were on 2 strokes (KTM or GasGas)...
I'm ready to go back to 2 strokes...
Well maybe the British connection can revive it...Certainly they
can impart the tech updates...But unless they buy it outright
from the Germans then they're still not in control and it's just
a made to order thing kind of..
We'll see if this company U.S. CompanyDirtWurx who builds MX tracks can
be a real importer providing bikes, parts, support other than
trackside at a few locations...Hope so...Bet not....
Why the heck can't the family in Germany that own everything get
their act together..They're missing out on a huge opportunity..
Look at the huge success of KTM 2 strokes..And now the realization
by some of the Japanese mfgrs. that they bailed on 2 strokes and
that was a mistake..Watching enduro racing form SouthAfrica
the other day and most were on 2 strokes (KTM or GasGas)...
I'm ready to go back to 2 strokes...
Well maybe the British connection can revive it...Certainly they
can impart the tech updates...But unless they buy it outright
from the Germans then they're still not in control and it's just
a made to order thing kind of..
Posted 26 November 2010 - 07:12 AM
man i hope they can get it together... i want a 700.. time will tell...
Posted 26 November 2010 - 08:20 AM
Great vid! 
I would really just like to get my hands on their 380--as much as I want another big bore the 380 would be perfect for me.
I wish I had the cash to get my 490 going...
I would really just like to get my hands on their 380--as much as I want another big bore the 380 would be perfect for me.I wish I had the cash to get my 490 going...
Posted 26 November 2010 - 10:25 AM
Actually, these Maicos are not from Koestler in Germany they are being built completely in the UK by Maico International. These are two seperate companies and Maico International is having their bikes shipped in here. One of the things they said is that they will have a good supply of parts. Also, they are providing the ability to upgrade, so if in 2012 they offer a new option to their new bikes for example, you can buy the new option direct as a bolt on option to your 2011.
http://www.tillamook.../index.php?id=1
http://www.tillamook...zine.com/Press/
http://www.tillamook.../index.php?id=1
http://www.tillamook...zine.com/Press/
Posted 27 November 2010 - 09:26 AM
maico760 said:
Actually, these Maicos are not from Koestler in Germany they are being built completely in the UK by Maico International......
The frame, engine, brakes, shock and all the accessories come from Köstler.
Maico international does a different swingarm, subframe, tank, wheels and puts in a PVL ignition
Posted 27 November 2010 - 02:38 PM
twinshocker said:
The frame, engine, brakes, shock and all the accessories come from Köstler.
Maico international does a different swingarm, subframe, tank, wheels and puts in a PVL ignition
Maico international does a different swingarm, subframe, tank, wheels and puts in a PVL ignition
The 2011 is supposed to be an entirely new design. I have yet to see it though.
Posted 27 November 2010 - 03:52 PM
Yes, the bike in the video is basically from Koestler. I was talking about the 2011's that will be imported. They have nothing to do with Koestler and the bike is completely built in the UK.
There is a message board http://www.maicoridersclub.com/ that is hosted by Maico International in the UK, you can post any questions you like there and they should be able to answer them.
There is a message board http://www.maicoridersclub.com/ that is hosted by Maico International in the UK, you can post any questions you like there and they should be able to answer them.
Posted 27 November 2010 - 08:27 PM
I just sent this to DIRTWURX...Hope they answer and we'll see what they say...
Yes...I want to know more about your involvement with Maico in 2011. You are stated as being the importer for Maico International in 2011. How are you going to support this? I mean if a person were to buy a new Maico from DIRTWURX. What is the system for a person to maintain his MAICO for years. How will he be able to get parts and possibly service? I don't understand how a company whose business is making motocross tracks is going to be able to support the riding community with after sales parts and service. Unless you're thinking that you will just sell the bike and possibly be available for assistance at a few tracks during the racing season. Please don't get me wrong. I would truly love to have a big bore MAICO for desert riding but how am I to maintain my investment if there is no supply of parts and service for YEARS (not months).
OK...Now please tell me how you are setting up a dealer network nationwide in all major cities in all the lower 48 States (Right?..
Yes...I want to know more about your involvement with Maico in 2011. You are stated as being the importer for Maico International in 2011. How are you going to support this? I mean if a person were to buy a new Maico from DIRTWURX. What is the system for a person to maintain his MAICO for years. How will he be able to get parts and possibly service? I don't understand how a company whose business is making motocross tracks is going to be able to support the riding community with after sales parts and service. Unless you're thinking that you will just sell the bike and possibly be available for assistance at a few tracks during the racing season. Please don't get me wrong. I would truly love to have a big bore MAICO for desert riding but how am I to maintain my investment if there is no supply of parts and service for YEARS (not months).
OK...Now please tell me how you are setting up a dealer network nationwide in all major cities in all the lower 48 States (Right?..
Posted 27 November 2010 - 09:22 PM
Let me know if you do not get a response, if you are serious about the bike I may be able to help.
I know he has been bombarded with questions.
I know he has been bombarded with questions.
Posted 27 November 2010 - 09:32 PM
there won't be any dealer network...these MMX's will only be produced by the handful at most...a boutique/niche bike at best and these guys are first class folks... my biggest concern is that they are optioning and tricking the bikes out way past the realistic sales point...they are going to go for around 11k USD or more. I have been involved with the newer Kostler bikes for a while and know all about the issues and dashed dreams, etc. Maico International is doing a wonderful thing, but need to start showing this 2011 MMX.
Posted 27 November 2010 - 10:05 PM
Yes, these will be small scale and no network up front, but the only question was how to get parts (i.e. direct from Maico UK or Dirt Wrux, online, etc.) and what will be the access to parts is the question.
Dirt Wurx:
Dirt Wurx:
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As for the bikes, the news is really exciting… With the recent announcement by MAICO UK that they will begin building their own frames and engines in the UK for the 2011 model year, all similarity with the somewhat dated bikes sporadically imported in recent years goes by the wayside! The MAICO UK guys are doing EXTENSIVE R&D and either building or buying all the good stuff you see in the brochure or at MXA, or on my site, and then hand assembling each bike from the ground up. I have been over to the UK several times in the last few months and the bikes are really cool.
Vince Page is a Maico “True Believer” and has put a ton of time and money into the R&D of updating the bikes, and it really shows !
Unfortunately with the dollar/euro and dollar/pound exchange rate these days they are going to be pricey… 10k to 12k range for the big bores… maybe a bit less for the 250 and 320, but these are really hand built high end bikes with all the good stuff as stock, and MAICO UK is making a program available to us where the customer can upgrade very reasonably as new parts become available in subsequent years, so your bike will not become dated as quick as with the Japanese models.
Obviously it is an expensive niche bike, but I’m a MAICO nut and I’m going to give it my best to get them over here at as best a price as I can, and hope there are enough guys like me out there to make it viable. There is just something about a traditional motocross two-stroke that makes me want to keep them alive in a world of cookie-cutter Japanese four banger boat anchors ! I have always been a Maico guy, and I am trying hard to make this a reality.
The UK guys definitely have the passion for the brand as well. Obviously we are going to be doing this on a very small scale at first, strictly distributor direct, though I would love to grow it in the coming years to where we have a small group of dealers who are as into the bikes we are
Vince Page is a Maico “True Believer” and has put a ton of time and money into the R&D of updating the bikes, and it really shows !
Unfortunately with the dollar/euro and dollar/pound exchange rate these days they are going to be pricey… 10k to 12k range for the big bores… maybe a bit less for the 250 and 320, but these are really hand built high end bikes with all the good stuff as stock, and MAICO UK is making a program available to us where the customer can upgrade very reasonably as new parts become available in subsequent years, so your bike will not become dated as quick as with the Japanese models.
Obviously it is an expensive niche bike, but I’m a MAICO nut and I’m going to give it my best to get them over here at as best a price as I can, and hope there are enough guys like me out there to make it viable. There is just something about a traditional motocross two-stroke that makes me want to keep them alive in a world of cookie-cutter Japanese four banger boat anchors ! I have always been a Maico guy, and I am trying hard to make this a reality.
The UK guys definitely have the passion for the brand as well. Obviously we are going to be doing this on a very small scale at first, strictly distributor direct, though I would love to grow it in the coming years to where we have a small group of dealers who are as into the bikes we are
Posted 27 November 2010 - 10:13 PM
As for service, even back in the day Maico was a small company and service was do it yourself 
That's how they actually earned the "Maico-Breako" name because ppl who didn't know how to work on bikes bought Maicos and broke them Maicos were always high performance works race bikes and required a lot of tuning they weren't meant to do anything otherwise.
However that really applies more to Maicos in the 70s, since the 80s Maicos have become more like Jap bikes maintaince wise especially since 1983. I don't do much maintaince on my 83, but I can't neglect my 82 (has the primary chain still) nor can I neglect my older KTM. I have found that anything that has broken though would have been prevented had I inspected and done proper maintaince before riding. You can't just park the bike and only look at it 6 months later.
Obviously I'm talking about the older bkes, the 83 I have I can park it and never look at it and I'm sure the newer Maicos are that way. However, all bikes require the same maintaince its just if you neglect it, they usually don't break unfortunately the older Maicos did. Bolts really do come out
That's how they actually earned the "Maico-Breako" name because ppl who didn't know how to work on bikes bought Maicos and broke them Maicos were always high performance works race bikes and required a lot of tuning they weren't meant to do anything otherwise. However that really applies more to Maicos in the 70s, since the 80s Maicos have become more like Jap bikes maintaince wise especially since 1983. I don't do much maintaince on my 83, but I can't neglect my 82 (has the primary chain still) nor can I neglect my older KTM. I have found that anything that has broken though would have been prevented had I inspected and done proper maintaince before riding. You can't just park the bike and only look at it 6 months later.
Obviously I'm talking about the older bkes, the 83 I have I can park it and never look at it and I'm sure the newer Maicos are that way. However, all bikes require the same maintaince its just if you neglect it, they usually don't break unfortunately the older Maicos did. Bolts really do come out
Posted 28 November 2010 - 06:57 AM
parts will be fine more than likely, but get used to ordering from England. Rich at Dirt Wurx may be a Maico guy, but has his hands full with tracks and other projects. There hasn't been much in the way of promotion so far, not that I have seen anyway. A few bikes may make it over here, but a container full of parts won't...not for sometime because whoever does import these, isn't going to sit on a bunch of parts. Please don't think I am a naysayer or anti-Maico.... I was crazy enough to import my own 2001 500 from Kostler, so I am a Maico freak. I have money burning a whole in my pocket, these MMX's are going to be the bike I have been waiting on for some time now. Just be prepared with self reliance and some frustration.
Posted 28 November 2010 - 07:21 AM
Would really love to see some videos of the old or new design Maico big bores in the real world getting hammered on(dunes,MX,motard,whatever).
That motor has to make big power. I have never seen videos of one ridden hard.
That motor has to make big power. I have never seen videos of one ridden hard.
