Air filter oil. How much?
Posted June 21, 2003 - 05:41 AM
Posted June 21, 2003 - 06:54 AM
re-oiled with what I thought was ample amount, bike wouldn't idle for 15 or so miles.
I sounds like you put on a really wet filter and some goo got into your carb and made it rough running. Since I mostly ride in dusty conditions I saturate the outside of the filter and wring out the excess. I realize that all oils are different but I believe that the filter should be well oiled. When I first got my bike Yamaha put the smallest amount of oil on the filter which I think isn't enough..
As far as you bike running rough, the filter is still wet, you should try drying out your filter before you ride. I use PJ1 chemicals with great results, I can remember using oil in liquid form and didn't have good result (kind of like you're having). Try to get a good oil in spray form and make sure that it's really dry before you ride, also don't start your bike in the garage after you've serviced the filter.... I think this will help you..
Posted June 21, 2003 - 08:22 AM
Posted June 21, 2003 - 03:48 PM
sprayed inside and out
I've never sprayed the inside of my filers on any bikes I've owned. I have a GYT-R filter that is made up of two filters and I try not to get any oil on the inside one because I'm afraid of getting oil into the carb.
What makes you believe that it's a filter problem? What kind of oil are you using... I used to use "Uni" oil in liquid form, is this what you're using?
Posted June 22, 2003 - 02:42 AM
Posted June 22, 2003 - 03:05 AM
It thoroughly saturates the filter with with the proper amount of oil and does not clog it up.
Posted June 22, 2003 - 04:46 AM
Only Oil the outside using Belray filter oil. I pretty much add enough to see it squeezing through and turns the entire filter blue.
I ring out the rest then add the inside filter and squeeze the filters together.
All In all I would say about 2 - 3 oz's of the oil is used and it is set aside for the day or installed.
either way it sits 24 hrs. But As Dan says I have never sprayed the inside of filters either
Posted June 22, 2003 - 12:57 PM
I have used the same procedure and amounts of oil with two different oils and have had great results. With both Maxima FFT and No Toil, I use the following procedure:
1) In a small shallow bucket, I pour enough oil onto the filter to completely saturate it. I mean completely. This is also what the Twin Air folks recommend.
2) I then firmly squeeze the excess oil out. What I mean by this is I use both hands to compress the filter until no more oil will run or drip out. There are usually spots where the oil collects and I use my hands to smooth these out and evenly distribute the oil. Both Maxima and No Toil have good dye markers so it's pretty easy to see where the oil is and isn't. You want uniform coverage with no pooling or glopping anywhere in the filter. Since the filters are made from open cell foam, the goal is the get a good film of oil throughout the cells on the exterior, and interior of the filter without plugging the cells with oil and thus making the filter restrictve.
3) Allow the filter to dry for an hour or so and then reinstall it. Wait 24 hours before riding. I often smell the filter to see if all the solvent has outgassed - NoToil is alchohol-based and is easy to smell.
In both cases, the bike has started and ran perfectly the next day. I'm no expert, but I doubt that your idle problem was due to too much oil in the filter unless it was dripping in the airboot and I doubt that!
Perhaps it was simply some dirt in the pilot orifice or something simple like that.
Try it again and let us know.