Barebones requirements to convert MX to SM.

Started by cloead , Jul 21 2010 07:17 PM

21 replies to this topic

cloead

Posted 21 July 2010 - 07:17 PM

So I just took my title for my 06 CRF250 up to the DMV. $18 later I have a regular motorcycle title. Another $35 and I have a license plate for it. Couldn't believe it.

I really just want to get a headlight and taillight on this bike. What would be the simplest/most inexpensive way to do that? Also.. can I mount street tires on my stock rims or does that look retarded? I have a set of stock rims laying around I could use. If not I suppose I will keep my eye out for a used set. Just had to drop $600 on new dirt rims because I bent the rear one :smirk:

Thanks for any help.

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Heffa-Norway

Posted 22 July 2010 - 10:18 AM

Being a european, it's more a wild guess than an educated statement, but I guess you would need a headlight, brakelight and blinkers. And yes, SM tires on MX rims would look utterly retarded, if it's even possible to get it in those dimensions.

Can recommend http://www.motostrano.com for all your needs, they have pretty wicked kits to convert your dirtbike to a lean mean street machine. Good luck!

cloead

Posted 22 July 2010 - 06:57 PM

Well I know what I legally need. I'm more just interested in getting a head & tailight working on the bike. I also have a 1000rr front rim with a good tire.. wonder if that would fit. If not I'll have to splurge on rims :smirk:

HodaddyB

Posted 23 July 2010 - 01:19 PM

I don't know of too many people who *wanted* to go motard and were sorry to have bought the 17s. If you aren't going to be doing any crazy sport riding or track days, you can get by w/ the stock brakes. If you find you're heating up the (front)rotor too much, most rotor mfrs are selling the big motard rotors w/ a bracket so you can use your stock caliper.

My experience was that I blued my rotor pretty good the first day on a race track w/ a flat track rig (19s F&R). I ended up w/ 17s front and rear w/ a Braking 4 pot and 320(?)mm rotor. The stock caliper isn't up to task if you ride hard.

I have seen people spend a day on the track and not blue their stock rotor too.

But, if it's a motard you want, nothing will have the look or feel of 17s...............and it feels pretty sweet:thumbsup:

Jonny Enduro

Posted 28 July 2010 - 03:46 PM

HodaddyB said:

I don't know of too many people who *wanted* to go motard and were sorry to have bought the 17s.

But, if it's a motard you want, nothing will have the look or feel of 17s...............and it feels pretty sweet:thumbsup:

+1

I sent my extra hubs to Procycle and had them lace up some 17s :smirk:

Try Sicass racing for headlight and taillight conversion parts.

cloead

Posted 30 July 2010 - 04:35 AM

Jonny Enduro said:

+1

I sent my extra hubs to Procycle and had them lace up some 17s :smirk:

Try Sicass racing for headlight and taillight conversion parts.

I like this idea. My stock rims are all bent up, but I think the hubs are fine. I'll send them out to get laced to some 17s.. much cheaper. Have my eye out for a 450x now... I want that electric start! :smirk:

cloead

Posted 30 July 2010 - 04:37 AM

Well according to procycle I guess it's not much cheaper.. they want $469 base price to lace up my hubs.. I can get a brand new set of rims from DNA for $499.. hm

Jonny Enduro

Posted 30 July 2010 - 04:46 AM

Keep in mind that if you use stock hubs it maybe easier to find rotors and sprockets than going with aftermarket hubs

HodaddyB

Posted 30 July 2010 - 09:38 AM

Is that $469 for the rims, spokes, nipples, and lacing labor?

Is the $499 for just rims and nothing else?

$469 doesn't sound too bad if it includes what I presume it does.

cloead

Posted 30 July 2010 - 10:45 AM

#10

HodaddyB said:

Is that $469 for the rims, spokes, nipples, and lacing labor?

Is the $499 for just rims and nothing else?

$469 doesn't sound too bad if it includes what I presume it does.

Not sure what the $469 is exactly, I'm assuming its for rims, spokes, nips, and labor.

$499 is for 2 complete 17" rims, (DNA hubs & rims, thicker spokes, nipples, spacers, and already assembled.)

HodaddyB

Posted 30 July 2010 - 12:32 PM

#11

$499 for a complete rig? WOW! I dunno anything about DNA products, but IF they make good stuff it could be a deal too good to refuse.

Wow

cloead

Posted 31 July 2010 - 03:41 PM

#12

HodaddyB said:

$499 for a complete rig? WOW! I dunno anything about DNA products, but IF they make good stuff it could be a deal too good to refuse.

Wow

I just bought a new set of them for off road use.. haven't rode on them yet :/

cloead

Posted 31 July 2010 - 04:08 PM

#13

shit i was off on price, he wants 699 for SM wheelset :banana:

lame. you can find them cheaper on ebay.

Jonny Enduro

Posted 01 August 2010 - 05:15 AM

#14

Thought I would clarify the pricing  from ProCycle on 17" wheels.

Rim 4.25x17  $250.00
Rim 3.5x17   $211.00
Rims were custom drilled for my hubs
68 Custom stainless steel spokes $132.60
68 Spoke nipples $$64.60
Lace & true wheels (on my used hubs) $160.00
Shipping (hubs to ProCycle) $20.00
Shipping (Completed wheels to me) $45.00

Total $838.82
Complete kits (Including hubs) run $1,000.00 and up (they did not have a kit for my XR)

Then of course there's the cost of tires, sprockets & chain, over-sized rotor and I put new bearings in the hubs before I sent them in.

So if your looking for a cheep hobby, I suggest taking walks in the park. :eek:

If you want full throttle fun then brake out the $$$$ and get the 17s. :banana:

HodaddyB

Posted 01 August 2010 - 06:15 AM

#15

Uh huh, these are the sort of numbers I was originally thinking.

The $699 number still isn't bad compared to the Excel wheelsets that were going for something around $750 for awhile. I dunno if they're still out there, but I remember an Excel rig for around that price. As mentioned by Johnny, you'll need to factor in the cost of a sprocket at least. I generally keep an entire sprocket/chain combo for SM use. I mentioned all the considerations regarding rotors earlier.

qkenuf4u

Posted 21 September 2010 - 10:50 AM

#16

man ya should have called your local bike shop and ask them what they charge to true wheels.. i can get my rims/spoke kit for 530$, unlace my own wheels, lace up my stock hubs and have my LBS true them up for 45$ a wheel or so... then order my 320mm disc/relocator bracket of ebay for 200$...
530$ - wheels
90$ - true
200$ - 320mm disc
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$820 for my 92 cr500 setup...

will have to pick up a rear 41t sprocket for 25$ too...

thanks for the info... just found my rim setup for the best price im gonna get... :ride:

bdmmotard

Posted 21 September 2010 - 05:23 PM

#17

to see how you'll like it you can just spoon on some avon gripster's onto your stock rims. Plenty of riders go very very fast on "sportsman" set up bikes.

dakh

Posted 22 September 2010 - 08:53 PM

#18

If you're worried about spending too much don't ride and MX bike on the street, engine rebuilds aren't cheap.

Briefly, the bike doesn't have light coil so it only makes enough juice to run ignition. If you get a different stator with light coil it still won't have enough power to power lights at idle (will be very dim). IMHO the easiest way is to just get a pack of rechargeable batteries (12v cordless drill?) and hook up some enduro dirt bike headlight and taillight. You'll have to charge the battery after every ride.

Matt Tiede

Posted 29 September 2010 - 08:35 AM

#19

cloead said:

SM wheels are designed for what you want to do. Slapping some street tires on your MX wheels wouldn't be ideal for handling characteristics.

We can get you a complete set of laced and trued Warp9s for $870 SHIPPED GROUND

That includes
Your color choice rims
Your color choice hubs
OVERSIZED front brake rotor
OVERSIZED rotor caliper mounting bracket
Rear rotor
Rear sprocket

If you want to order give us a call at 866-674-6788 :smirk:

AR DRZ

Posted 04 October 2010 - 09:15 AM

#20

Thread's been kinda dead, but I am curious about a similar situation. In short, I want to find same size front wheel as the back on my DRZ400E (18") and put some sort of 80/20 tires on them. The wheel set would be 18's instead of a true supermoto 17's but I am not trying to race or be super cool. I really like the look/stance of a SM bike and ride mine as a commuter around town... but I have 2 miles of gravel road for a drive way.

Can I do that and just leave all of the other components as they are?