cleaning the airfilter with soap
Posted June 13, 2003 - 11:13 AM
Posted June 13, 2003 - 12:27 PM
I am no expert, but I don't think using soap on your filter to clean them will be a bad thing. I am not sure you will get all the oil out of the filter but it definately won't hurt it. If all the oil isn't removed I would think that air flow would be your biggest concern.
I use No-Toil and always wash my filters in washing machine with detergent and a bit of the No-Toil cleanser.
What does cause dirt to get through your filter is lack of a good, tacky oil.
Soap is not a factor in this unless of course, you left a lot of it in the filter (didn't rinse out well) and that soapy, flaky crap is allowed to be sucked into your baby. Too much soap left in filter probably wouldn't allow the oil to fully tack to filter causing a back door for dirt so to speak.
Wash on my friend,
Posted June 13, 2003 - 02:46 PM
Seems to work for me.
Posted June 13, 2003 - 03:24 PM
Posted June 13, 2003 - 03:27 PM
Posted June 16, 2003 - 06:20 AM
Posted June 16, 2003 - 06:52 AM
Posted June 16, 2003 - 06:56 AM
(I don't understand how those of you who don't wash the filter in soap and water think you have a clean filter. After I rinse my filter thoroughly in solvent, I always get a crapload of sand coming out in the wash. I use a white plastic dishpan to clean my filters in so I can see if dirt is still coming out. I get probably a half a teaspoon of dirt out of the filter every time during the water wash phase. And the filter looks clean when I start.)
After I wash the filter, I put it on top of the air conditioner unit outside to dry. In 20 minutes it's dry and ready for oil. And then I load it up with cheap 30 weight oil, squeeze it out, slap it on the bike and it's ready to ride. I used to use Bel-Ray filter oil or PJ 1 spray oil, but you have to wait a while for those oils to setup or you risk gumming up the carb. Regular motor oil in the filter allows better air flow and is much cheaper. And that's what my manual says to use.
Posted June 16, 2003 - 02:27 PM
Posted June 16, 2003 - 03:50 PM
If you do indeed use 30 weight motor oil, I hope you clean the filter after every ride. The factory manual notwithstanding, motor oil tends to seep to the bottom of the filter fairly quickly.
You know, you'd think that, but I can take my filter out after several rides (if it hasn't been too dusty and I had to put in a clean one because it's caked on the outside) and you get oil on your hands when you push around on the outside. Yes, there is some minor pooling at the bottom of the filter, but not enough to drip off. If you squeeze it on top or the sides, oil comes out between your fingers, even if it's been weeks. IMO, the tacky oil argument holds no water and is perpetuated by "tacky oil" manufacturers to make us spend more money on their products instead of just going by manual recommendations and using the cheap stuff. I was a "tacky oil" disciple too until I saw if for my own eyes. It doesn't make sense anymore to me to spend the extra time and money when 30 weight works perfectly. And to answer any skeptics, I've ridden in extremely dusty conditions and afterwards the inside of the air boot was spotlessly clean so the oil is doing its job.
Posted June 19, 2003 - 08:15 AM
(and to stay on topic I'm liking kerosene and soap & water for the cleaning)
Posted June 19, 2003 - 08:37 AM
Posted June 19, 2003 - 08:39 AM
I use hot water dawn liquid (about an oz) as said mix not to bring up sudds
and just let the filter sit for about an hour or until my hand wont get scaulded.
In the luke warm water just rub and clean and rinse with water. Make sure you rinse it with warm water to get all the sudds out and clean of detergent.