need some input


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  • 03SVT

Posted June 20, 2010 - 01:50 PM

#1

i currently ride an 09 YZ250F, only mods are loudmouth intake and factory connection suspension work. im 182lbs and i almost feel the bike doesnt have the power im wanting, and i dont think a full exhaust is going to get me where i want to be. im really thinking about picking up a 2010 YZ450F. ive only ridden one 450 and it was a honda 450 and i noticed the power felt nice, but the suspension was horrible so i had zero confidence in opening the bike up and really stretching its legs. will i find the YZ to be more along the lines of what im wanting? i guess my major complaint is that i feel like im really ripping on the bike hard and shifting all the time to keep the bike making power(granted the 250F is my first four stroke and ive only been riding it since last oct.) right now im running in the beginner class, and im by no means smoking the compitition out there lol, so any input is appreciated! thanks guys

  • Jim813

Posted June 20, 2010 - 10:05 PM

#2

i currently ride an 09 YZ250F, only mods are loudmouth intake and factory connection suspension work. im 182lbs and i almost feel the bike doesnt have the power im wanting, and i dont think a full exhaust is going to get me where i want to be. im really thinking about picking up a 2010 YZ450F. ive only ridden one 450 and it was a honda 450 and i noticed the power felt nice, but the suspension was horrible so i had zero confidence in opening the bike up and really stretching its legs. will i find the YZ to be more along the lines of what im wanting? i guess my major complaint is that i feel like im really ripping on the bike hard and shifting all the time to keep the bike making power(granted the 250F is my first four stroke and ive only been riding it since last oct.) right now im running in the beginner class, and im by no means smoking the compitition out there lol, so any input is appreciated! thanks guys


I moved up to a 450 fairly early (14 years old) and at that time I was in the C class. If I could go back, and I could have afforded to maintain a 250f (or at least what I thought it cost), I would have liked to stay on a smaller bike for awhile longer to develop skills I never fully developed.

Also it can depend on what style of terrain you ride and races you participate in. I ride and race a lot of variety and thought I could use more of the 450's flexibility. For me, getting the 450 was a better decision as I have grown with the bike been able to keep it for a while now with no need to replace. But, my clutch skills are not where they need to be because just when I was learning how to use the clutch to modulate power I jumped the 450 and didn't think I needed to work the clutch. Now I realize it's a huge part of making a dirt bike work better.

I would try to ride a few 450's and see what you think, but my personal opinion is to stay on the smaller and develop skills that you may not develop or pick up as quickly if you jump right to the 450.

Hope this helps.:thumbsup:

  • 03SVT

Posted June 21, 2010 - 05:45 AM

#3

i wouldn't be getting rid of the 250F, its paid for so i have no reason to get rid of it. i do agree with your train of thought and it would make sense to stay with the 250. i really need to get some seat time on a buddies 450, that way i can make a more informed decision

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  • BBrown626

Posted June 21, 2010 - 03:53 PM

#4

I weight 220 and rode my son's 250F Saturday at Perris Raceway (he can't get enough of my 450!). The 250's do have a lot of power if you know how to ride them. The 450 is forgiving where the 250 has to be ridden harder and speed kept higher. Odds are your lap times will be close, though you will think the 250 feels slower. The 250 will likely fail you sooner because you will be riding it harder. I think that riding it harder will help you learn.

  • 03SVT

Posted June 22, 2010 - 05:29 AM

#5

I weight 220 and rode my son's 250F Saturday at Perris Raceway (he can't get enough of my 450!). The 250's do have a lot of power if you know how to ride them. The 450 is forgiving where the 250 has to be ridden harder and speed kept higher. Odds are your lap times will be close, though you will think the 250 feels slower. The 250 will likely fail you sooner because you will be riding it harder. I think that riding it harder will help you learn.

i think that is something that is going on in the back of my head to, i need to not be afraid to rev the thing out and ride it harder. i think once i get used to that ill be better off. i prob should changed the gearing to help stay in the power better, since most of the tracks dont have alotta high speed straights anyway. i think ill prob still get a 450 next year though, i really want a 10 pretty bad! i think the other appeal is having more power, the only thing im slightly worried about is the weight difference and how it feels while riding and jumping.

  • YamaLink

Posted June 22, 2010 - 03:38 PM

#6

Adding to the good input, when you ride the buddy's 450, set it up for you. Then after you get used to it, or as much as you can in the time he's eyeing you to make sure the bike doesn't get wadded up, break out the stopwatch. Compare times. As stated, the times may be close.

And if possible ride the 450 for more than 15 minutes straight. The extra mass and engine inertia should make themselves known to you and your ability in handling a 450F. Yeah, it'll be new and most of your energy will be nervous (new bike, borrowed bike, etc.) but a lot of my friends test ride a 450F for 5 minutes. They love it! Rips, wheelies, jumps. Can't do no wrong! Shoot, that's what a 450 is supposed to make you feel like for the first 5 to 15 minutes. But it is afterward.....that's what makes people post "should I trade in my 450 for a 250F?"





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