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[hawaiidirtrider TT Addict]

I have seen an earlier partial cross reference in the Betamotorcycles.net site and the sherco cross reference thread just listed reminded me to ask here . It is great info. Anything to upgrade from what's here?:ride:


http://www.betamotor...t/crossref.html

There's a little more here but you have to hunt for it:
http://beta-talk.com/

Edited by hawaiidirtrider, 15 June 2010 - 09:45 AM.

[hawaiidirtrider TT Addict]

No Beta cross reference tips?...anyone?:ride:

I was kind of hoping someone could give a tip like if a ktm scotts damper mount fits a Beta?....It would be cheaper and easier if it did but I don't know. I keep thinking I can go used and save some money . I don't really need a damper but it would be cool to have one.

[alphaBETAdog TT Bronze Member]

hawaiidirtrider said:

No Beta cross reference tips?...anyone?:ride:

I was kind of hoping someone could give a tip like if a ktm scotts damper mount fits a Beta?....It would be cheaper and easier if it did but I don't know. I keep thinking I can go used and save some money . I don't really need a damper but it would be cool to have one.

HDR,

I experimented with both the BRP and PRP KTM sub mount brackets to mount my Scotts dampner with no success. The angled handlebar surface on the Beta tripple clamp is the problem. I eventually used a new BRP upper tripple clamp and a weld-on tower purchased from Chip at Threat Racing. He also has clamp on towers for the unique Beta stem. Call Chip as he as already worked everything out.

The Beta's geometry is so good I really didn't need a dampner for the most part. I had a practically new Scotts, so I figured I might as well mount it. It does make it much easier/safer to go fast in the rocks however.

Other than that, I have nothing to add to the cross-reference already out there. So far my RS has been completely reliable and I haven't had to buy any parts other than a few minor spares (ie clips, and axle nut).

[hawaiidirtrider TT Addict]

alphaBETAdog said:

HDR,

I experimented with both the BRP and PRP KTM sub mount brackets to mount my Scotts dampner with no success. The angled handlebar surface on the Beta tripple clamp is the problem. I eventually used a new BRP upper tripple clamp and a weld-on tower purchased from Chip at Threat Racing. He also has clamp on towers for the unique Beta stem. Call Chip as he as already worked everything out.

The Beta's geometry is so good I really didn't need a dampner for the most part. I had a practically new Scotts, so I figured I might as well mount it. It does make it much easier/safer to go fast in the rocks however.

Other than that, I have nothing to add to the cross-reference already out there. So far my RS has been completely reliable and I haven't had to buy any parts other than a few minor spares (ie clips, and axle nut).

Thanks!!! I kind of figured something like that would be the case. Thanks for the links too. I had already scouted the traditional routes for a damper but was just checking to see if the cross reference way would save $$$ 4-6 hundred is reasonable but not cheap and I don't really need this like you say. It is more bling with the proportion to money than improvement being excessive. There's nothing to get for this bike and I keep looking for mods anyway. If you look at my cr in my garage you can see where I get carried away . There's nothing much else to do for that thing so I am looking at my Beta now. I probably will also get an fmf pipe for mods sake too. Thanks again.

I just ordered a powernow carb insert. I will report good or bad later.

[alphaBETAdog TT Bronze Member]

hawaiidirtrider said:

Thanks!!! I kind of figured something like that would be the case. Thanks for the links too. I had already scouted the traditional routes for a damper but was just checking to see if the cross reference way would save $$$ 4-6 hundred is reasonable but not cheap and I don't really need this like you say. It is more bling with the proportion to money than improvement being excessive. There's nothing to get for this bike and I keep looking for mods anyway. If you look at my cr in my garage you can see where I get carried away . There's nothing much else to do for that thing so I am looking at my Beta now. I probably will also get an fmf pipe for mods sake too. Thanks again.

I just ordered a powernow carb insert. I will report good or bad later.

I know what you mean about wanting to make mods. I had a DRZ that I got all caught up in spending lots of money and effort on mods to make it what it really wasn't until I finally came to my senses and bought the Beta! The Beta really doesn't need anything. After saying that, a dampner doesn't hurt as I know it has saved my bacon from nasty falls several times when I have hit large rocks and roots off center at speed. If you don't have the dampner unit already, you may consider the GPR as I believe it is a bolt on.

Although I really like the suspension, I am considering sending it out to Les at LTR to work his majic... Maybe I don't know what I am missing...?

[hawaiidirtrider TT Addict]

alphaBETAdog said:

I know what you mean about wanting to make mods. I had a DRZ that I got all caught up in spending lots of money and effort on mods to make it what it really wasn't until I finally came to my senses and bought the Beta! The Beta really doesn't need anything. After saying that, a dampner doesn't hurt as I know it has saved my bacon from nasty falls several times when I have hit large rocks and roots off center at speed. If you don't have the dampner unit already, you may consider the GPR as I believe it is a bolt on.

Although I really like the suspension, I am considering sending it out to Les at LTR to work his majic... Maybe I don't know what I am missing...?

That's it we have the same disease.:thumbsup:

[Eric@ScottsPerformance]

Hi Guys-
We now have bolt on damper kits that will fit 06-10 Beta's on the stock triple clamp.

http://www.scottsonl...litrack/425.pdf

Thanks-
Eric Vargo
Scotts Performance
818-248-6747

[haychip TT Member]

Eric, your kits only fit the 2010's. Even though the clamp on tower (which I have had for two years) fits all years the top clamps are different. You have kits for 2010's handlebar position # 2 and # 3 only. I have kits for 2005-2009 positions 2,3,4. Then of course the new ones from Scott. In addition to that I also have the position # 4 for the 2010. (for guys 6'-3" or taller or long arms or guys that like the most forward position.

[Eric@ScottsPerformance]

Chip-
While we have not installed them ourselves yet I allready have customers that have retrofitted the 2010 kit onto the earlier bikes. The pictures they have sent me look right on, but since we have not done it ourselves you never really know.
Good to know about you having the barclamp as I can steer folks your way when needed!
Thanks-
Eric

[haychip TT Member]

Eric, the 2005-09 would use a 904026(06) in the #2 and a 904041(06) in the number three position. Your new ones are different. Give me a call, I can send you a top clamp so you can measure & verify. The 2005-09 is a 17mm offset and the 2010 is a 20mm and the threaded holes in the top clamp are different as well (in relation to the center of the stem).

Thanks for making the "40" what it truly is and I don't have to pre clearance every top cap before I send them out or install here.

[hawaiidirtrider TT Addict]

I ran across this site. I don't know how practical it is to order from but it would be another source at least to talk to your dealer about or to get ideas for graphics etc.

http://www.fennek-to...tm?categoryId=5

This is just to add to the mix like the Boano racing site , Threat racing and anything else out there. This site has dakar racing related stuff which I have no interest in but is interesting to see.

[hawaiidirtrider TT Addict]

Force racing Beta guards and stuff.

http://www.forceacce...ge/Products.php

:ride:

http://www.forceacce...s/FA004KT01.htm

I am leaning toward getting one of these to try. I like the topar guard . It is beautiful but sometimes I wonder if the mud gets a little restrictive. http://store.toparra...ory_Code=KTMGCS

[hawaiidirtrider TT Addict]

http://www.fennek-to...tm?categoryId=5

This looks interesting. This might be a good mod to add.:ride:

[hawaiidirtrider TT Addict]

http://www.threatracing.com/

Of course we have our USA Beta Cali desert specialists

These are nice . I didn't see that you had these...nice:thumbsup:

http://www.threatrac...catalogId=-1077

I have to say this is a first class website!!!!! It's well laid out and makes you want to keep looking around in there!!!

Edited by hawaiidirtrider, 14 July 2010 - 11:38 PM.

[hawaiidirtrider TT Addict]

American Beta:

They got some casual stuff added lately :
http://www.americanb...ccessories.html

:ride:

All in all the customer service from Beta in USA has been excellent from my experience. .. from the top ..all the way to my dealer Joe at Tiki Cycle in Oahu, Hawaii.:worthy::thumbsup:

http://tikicyclesunlimited.com/

[hawaiidirtrider TT Addict]

I was just wondering about cross reference for rear brake discs. I think husky and gasgas hubs are the same or similar for some years at least. I like the stock braking rear brake disc but the square edges pull tons of grass in the pads etc and there's junk stuck in there most every time I ride. It's a pain to clean out. I want a boring more basic round disc or at least a light wave rotor to not pull grass in. I used to see some solid (for mud) rear discs on the beta website I think but don't see it now. I think the iron man sprockets list gasgas and beta together for sprockets . I think it's healthy to have a variety of places to go for parts even though it's good to support Beta dealerships. ..Anyway rear disc crossreferences anyone?:ride:

Might this fit? http://www.ktm-parts.com/M0511601.html


Also here is the Boano racing site. I don't know anything about them except they have a Beta racing team , they have some cool stuff and they are in Italy. I don't know how hard it is to get anyparts from them either. My only snafu with American beta has been trying to order a carbon fiber aircleaner accessible sidecover for my 09 525 through Americanbeta but from Boano racing . It was many months waiting....I got pissed from waiting so long.... so I finally just cancelled the order. Other than that Americanbeta has been excellent in it's service along with my dealer. ..I think the initial problem was that most all of italy goes on vacation in one month so boano was also mostly shut down while my order was supposed to go through. Maybe they just forgot about me after that..I don't know . Anyway that's just a side note. Here's the website:

http://www.beta.boano.com/

Edited by hawaiidirtrider, 21 April 2011 - 01:55 AM.

[Chasejj TT Bronze Member]

Also here is the Boano racing site. I don't know anything about them except they have a Beta racing team , they have some cool stuff and they are in Italy. I don't know how hard it is to get anyparts from them either. My only snafu with American beta has been trying to order a carbon fiber aircleaner accessible sidecover for my 09 525 through Americanbeta but from Boano racing . It was many months waiting....I got pissed from waiting so long.... so I finally just cancelled the order. Other than that Americanbeta has been excellent in it's service along with my dealer. ..I think the initial problem was that most all of italy goes on vacation in one month so boano was also mostly shut down while my order was supposed to go through. Maybe they just forgot about me after that..I don't know . Anyway that's just a side note. Here's the website:

[url]http://www.beta.boano.com/[/url][/QUOTE]

I was at Beta's office the other day and talking to Tim. He said he tried to get some more of thos CF side covers , but they are handmade -1 at a time. Since the bikes have changed the guy making them has stopped.
We aren't going to see more of those. At least the new ones have side access stock.

[Chas_M TT Addict]

Eric@ScottsPerformance said:

Chip-
While we have not installed them ourselves yet I allready have customers that have retrofitted the 2010 kit onto the earlier bikes. The pictures they have sent me look right on, but since we have not done it ourselves you never really know.
Good to know about you having the barclamp as I can steer folks your way when needed!
Thanks-
Eric

I realize that this is from an older thread but I just now noticed it.

I mounted an above bar Scotts mount on my '09 Beta 570 RS and the damper lines up perfectly. In order to use the forward-most handlebar position, the damper link arm must be replaced with a longer one.

[hawaiidirtrider TT Addict]

[quote name='Chasejj']Also here is the Boano racing site. I don't know anything about them except they have a Beta racing team , they have some cool stuff and they are in Italy. I don't know how hard it is to get anyparts from them either. My only snafu with American beta has been trying to order a carbon fiber aircleaner accessible sidecover for my 09 525 through Americanbeta but from Boano racing . It was many months waiting....I got pissed from waiting so long.... so I finally just cancelled the order. Other than that Americanbeta has been excellent in it's service along with my dealer. ..I think the initial problem was that most all of italy goes on vacation in one month so boano was also mostly shut down while my order was supposed to go through. Maybe they just forgot about me after that..I don't know . Anyway that's just a side note. Here's the website:

[url]http://www.beta.boano.com/[/url][/QUOTE]

I was at Beta's office the other day and talking to Tim. He said he tried to get some more of thos CF side covers , but they are handmade -1 at a time. Since the bikes have changed the guy making them has stopped.
We aren't going to see more of those. At least the new ones have side access stock.[/QUOTE]

Thanks for more information on this. I didn't even know any got to the united states....oh well.......I guess I should make an attempt to make one. It shouldn't be too hard ...I figure it will just take a bit of time to make(wishful thinking) ...I've never fooled with carbon fiber but I know my surf /boat buddies fool with it or have access to it as they get their surfboard resins and stuff from a common source. The thing is I would rather have liked someone else to go through the hassle and I would just buy it and install it on my bike. I know if it my work looks ugly I will have to do it over and over again until it looks good. When you haven't fooled with a medium like carbon fiber there's a question of how things will look in the end. Maybe it will be easier to start with the stock side cover ....

[Eric@ScottsPerformance]

Chas-
Just make sure that the damper bolt holes are lined up exactly over the center of the steering stem nut and you are good to go. If they are not lined up exactly then you are going to have some wear issues or breakage later down the road.
Thanks-
Eric