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  • PONIE

Posted May 06, 2003 - 03:26 PM

#1

I just changed my gearing to 14 and 51 on my 2001 DRZS and what a huge increase in performance.

When I bought this bike new, I could not imagine what you guys were talking about when you wanted more power and suspention . Now with a few years under my belt, I am starting to consider moving to another manufacture for more all around performance.

How can you compare with so many variables effecting owners bias.

I have experienced the slow migration from opening the air box, 12/44 gearing, installing new jets, and now the 14/51 gear change is getting me to the point where I need a suspension upgrade for my 230lbs. Did I mention the awesome increase in enjoyment with my new gearing? Its no wonder everyone has such major differences in power rating their DRZS. Hell If you asked me to rate my bike for power after these changes, I would tell you I have to start working out my arms to keep me on the damn thing. I love this, but will it ever stop. When someone is stating the superior trail capabilities of a manufacture, is it because they weigh 125lbs and forget about us big boys. I need a bike for a fat boy that thinks he is a kid again.

I need some help to make a decision as to what bike to turn to.

Priorities include:

Electric start
Low maintenance
More power for hill climbing tight trails
Suspension that doesnt bottom out with every minor jump
but of coarse I want a pleasant ride.

Any suggestions.


Deepwoods Pennsylvania
Why an S for 99% offroad ?
One year warranty
4 year Service Coverage for $407
Street Leagal when in court (:-)
2001DRZ400S
Jets: 150/27.5
UFO Hand Gards
Tires
r/Michelin Cross 12 Intermediate
f/Bridgestone M25 Mud
Airbox and Exhaust Modification
History:
Flat head Harley in mid 70s
Bridgestone 100 Enduro 1978-80
Honda 90 Three wheeler 1981-82
Honda 185S 1983-86
Kawasaki TACOTTI 250 1985-87
KDX 250 2001
DRZ400s 2001

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Knopey
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Re: How can you compare with so many variables [re: PONIE]
05/05/03 07:09 PM Edit Reply



Suspension work!

In your sig you don't mention suspension mods?? At 230lbs? So if that's what's holding you up, just fix it. New fork & shock springs at least. Another whole new bike awaits just around the corner.

PS: Any bike'll need suspension mods with a rider of our weight, that's just the way they're made

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Re: How can you compare with so many variables [re: Knopey]
05/05/03 07:15 PM Edit Reply



exactly!i wiegh 200-220 depending on the time of year.suspenion set up is critical on a drz!

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AussieE
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Re: How can you compare with so many variables [re: PONIE]
05/05/03 10:10 PM Edit Reply



G'Day son

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I need a bike for a fat boy that thinks he's a kid again


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I hear you mate,trust me I hear ya ,but as they have already said it doesn't matter what you buy it'll need suspenion work to work properly for you, I belive you have the right bike for a while yet just get that supension done .As far as coming to an end of the modifcation road well I'll let you know if I ever get there .
Ian

2000 DRZ-400E
When all else fails ,GAS IT !
CFC sidecase sheilds/B&B case saver/whipps bashplate/
acerbis barkbusters/factoy effex grippy seat cover/
custom made leather tool pack on rear fender/
165 main,48 pilot,2 1/4 turns on fuelscrew/
staintune stainless exhaust/
Michelin M12 up front/dunlop D739 on the rear/
Renthal bars/
all unnessasary stuff removed ,helmet lock ,chainguard etc.

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PONIE
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Re: How can you compare with so many variables [re: PONIE]
05/06/03 04:52 AM Edit Reply



Ok I got the picture

230lbs on the scale

What is the process of getting the suspention upgraded?

Who can I trust, how long does it take ? How much coin?

hit me with some links and I'll go to work. All of your comments and wisdom are working for me.

Thank you very much

ponie

Deepwoods Pennsylvania
Why an S for 99% offroad ?
One year warranty
4 year Service Coverage for $407
Street Leagal when in court (:-)
2001DRZ400S
Jets: 150/27.5
UFO Hand Gards
Tires
r/Michelin Cross 12 Intermediate
f/Bridgestone M25 Mud
Airbox and Exhaust Modification
History:
Flat head Harley in mid 70s
Bridgestone 100 Enduro 1978-80
Honda 90 Three wheeler 1981-82
Honda 185S 1983-86
Kawasaki TACOTTI 250 1985-87
KDX 250 2001
DRZ400s 2001




Deepwoods Pennsylvania
Why an S for 99% offroad ?
One year warranty
4 year Service Coverage for $407
Street Leagal when in court (:-)
2001DRZ400S
Jets: 150/27.5
UFO Hand Gards
Tires
r/Michelin Cross 12 Intermediate
f/Bridgestone M25 Mud
Airbox and Exhaust Modification
History:
Flat head Harley in mid 70s
Bridgestone 100 Enduro 1978-80
Honda 90 Three wheeler 1981-82
Honda 185S 1983-86
Kawasaki TACOTTI 250 1985-87
KDX 250 2001
DRZ400s 2001

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mnelson78
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Re: Help to convert a DRZer to a KTM wannabe [re: PONIE]
05/06/03 10:19 AM Edit Reply



Get the KTM! I used to have a drz400S. I now have a KTM 525sx. It is a HUGE difference. For you though, the 450exc or 525exc would be great! The KTM's feel so much lighter, are electric start, have a 6 speed, renthal fatbar handlebars, hydraulic clutch, etc. If you can afford it it is a MUCH better bike.

-Matt


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03' KTM 525 SX - GPR steering stabilizer, Promotobillet endcap, 14/53 gearing, JD Jetting kit.
01' DRZ 400 S (sold)


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ben_suhard
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Re: Help to convert a DRZer to a KTM wannabe [re: mnelson78]
05/06/03 11:36 AM Edit Reply



Ummm, am I wrong in thinking that 12/44 gearing is almost the same as 14/51???

e-start:less time kicking, more time riding!
Very tired '99KLX250R, (Oct2002)03EXC525.

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KEITH_S.
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Re: Help to convert a DRZer to a KTM wannabe [re: ben_suhard]
05/06/03 12:26 PM Edit Reply



One ride on the KTM, and my DRZ E model went in the paper!

02'520 EXC
2001 DRZ400E(GONE)

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Craig
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Re: Help to convert a DRZer to a KTM wannabe [re: KEITH_S.]
05/06/03 02:49 PM Edit Reply



I too am a former DRZ400S Rider. I did all the mods, gearing, airbox, jetting, stripped unnecessary parts, new tank, lights, etc. The engine performance was not that bad, but the suspension and the weight was awful. I now ride an 01 400EXC and I'm thrilled. The 35lb weight difference feels more like 100. The bike is very nimble. Also, it has a lot more power. I was very surprised by the power difference between the DRZ and the EXC.

Since I bought used, I was able to upgrade from my 00 DRZ to the 01 KTM for the same amount of money that it would have cost me to rebuild the suspension. I have no regrets at all.


~ Craig


2001 KTM400 EXC

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PONIE
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Re: Help to convert a DRZer to a KTM wannabe [re: ben_suhard]
05/06/03 06:21 PM Edit Reply



12/44 is higher than 14/51 without a doubt
will be trying the 13 soon
still will pull 65 in the straights

cool for my riding


Deepwoods Pennsylvania
Why an S for 99% offroad ?
One year warranty
4 year Service Coverage for $407
Street Leagal when in court (:-)
2001DRZ400S
Jets: 150/27.5
UFO Hand Gards
Tires
r/Michelin Cross 12 Intermediate
f/Bridgestone M25 Mud
Airbox and Exhaust Modification
History:
Flat head Harley in mid 70s
Bridgestone 100 Enduro 1978-80
Honda 90 Three wheeler 1981-82
Honda 185S 1983-86
Kawasaki TACOTTI 250 1985-87
KDX 250 2001
DRZ400s 2001

  • dirtstiff

Posted May 06, 2003 - 03:53 PM

#2

Short and simple: A DRZ400E sounds like it would fit your' bill. I just traded mine, no fault to the Z for another step up toward a little more aggressive off road bike. I like to ride aggressively and do some racing, so the WR was my choice. You have to underatand what you want and can afford. Best of luck in your' quest. :) Dirtstiff

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  • huskyrider

Posted May 06, 2003 - 05:05 PM

#3

PONIE,
One of my buddies has a DRZ400E and I love riding his bike through the woods. He's got Yosh pipe, carb work, and suspension work plus BNG's. For trails/woods riding I'd take it over my WR's any day.
It does not do the crossover thing to MX/SX well at all.
Picking a new bike, to me, is about application and compromises. If I rode 90% trails/woods, I'd of bought the E model 2 years ago. I ride a solid 50/50 mix. Pure MX'rs were tossed out because of maintenance on 2 strokes and lots of clutching in the woods on the 4 strokes. It left me with a choice of trail bikes. I felt the WR did the most effective job of crossover riding. I'm to cheap to buy a new bike when I have a good scoot that just needs some tweaking to make it fit my application better. If your not offroad racing or mixing it up at the local track you'd probably be better served fixing your current bike and pocketing the cash you'd of spent on a new ride.

  • 1350cfm

Posted May 06, 2003 - 05:19 PM

#4

I just got a 2003 KTM 625SXC and I am very happy with it. I tip the scales at 235lbs and it handles my weight EASILY. It will wheelie in 4th gear and climb any hill you have the guts to climb. Comes pretty well equipt from the factory. USD forks, WP shock and forks, E start, hand guards, Magura tapered bars, hydro clutch, Brembo brakes, electronic speedo, enduro computer, competion exhaust and the list goes on. If you ride rough terrain, Plan on replacing the CV carb with a FCR41 or a Mikuni TM40 pumper carb.




 
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