polaris indy 500, 600?
Posted January 08, 2010 - 09:53 PM
i would like to get one from any where from 1990 to lets say 1995-1996. or a little newer for the right price. i think the 500 is just a twin and the 600 is a tripple? right?
also the main thing i was wondering about is the efi on them? is it similar to the newer sleds? like arctic cat didnt start putting it on its sleds until around 2000 or so? so what is the deal with that, polaris started way sooner? is the efi on these a different type, or did just no one else decide to make it? is the efi on these sleds any good? are they fairly reliable? any major common problems? anything to look for?
also i am interested in how one of these would match up to a yamaha v max 500 or 600?
thanks for your help:ride:
Posted January 09, 2010 - 04:40 AM
Posted January 09, 2010 - 07:29 AM
Stick with the carbs and you'll be a lot happier and they make more power than the EFI versions of that era.
Either one will be comparable performance wise with the Yamaha's but they are lighter and the suspension is much better.
The 500 is a twin and the 600 is a tripple the XCR flavor from 96 and newer is a tripple with tripple pipes and a heavy mistempered pig to boot.
Honestly I would stay away from the tripple as in the XCR flavor completely as they were plug eaters. Then there is the XLT which is the same basic motor with slightly smaller carbs and is actually much more user friendly. Then with both of those there is the issue with Crankshaft failures. Normally if you got a good one your OK but the bad ones were really bad, Out of about 15 sleds that friends had in both the XLT and XCR versions I know of 2 that were good ones, one is a fully modded 95 XCR 600 built for Ice racing that my brother still owns and collects dust, and the other is an 94 XLT special that a friend owned from new until he sold it to another friend that still has it. That sled had over 8000 miles on the original motor when I rebuilt the top end for him 2 years ago when it burnt down due to a crank seal and the rest of the crank was in perfect shape.
Both sleds were hugely popular and used parts are abundant. The indy 500 has still to this day sold more sleds than any other model ever produced and that's the reason Polaris made that sled from 1989 up until 2001 or 2 without any major revisions to the motor. It's a good one.
so my vote is deffinately the 500 non EFI
Posted January 09, 2010 - 10:17 AM
i agree with staying away from efi , ski- doo didn't start efi till about 5 years ago . carbs work great .
Posted January 09, 2010 - 10:12 PM
so my best bet would to be to stick with a carb sled? when did they come out with the modern efi? or when did it start to be good?
what is bad about the older efi???? did the efi on them get better like in the late 1990s models???
how well could the indy 500 or 600 or yamaha v max keep up with a zrt 600 or a like a zr 600 ? what my buddies have?
thanks for your help!
Posted January 10, 2010 - 07:17 AM
For the 90's model sleds you are much better off with the carberated sleds for reliability and maintenance costs.
An indy 600 (xcr/xlt/xc) or yamaha 600 from the mid 90's will "keep up" with the 600 zrt's and zr's but get the zrt out on a lake and he'll leave you behind pretty handily. That was a 600 tripple with tripple pipes done VERY well for it's vintage. The ZR 600 was about on par with the 600 twins from the other manufacturers at the time. The indy 500 is a low 90 mph top end sled and will fall behind on top end on the lakes ect when compared to the others mentioned here. However you will have less motor problems than any of the other sleds you've listed hands down.
The Yamahas are a solid running motor but the chassis is sorely lacking until you get to the pro-action vintage sleds (got rid of the pogo stick front suspension) in the late 90's this is also when all their 600's went to a 3 cylinder configuration and that is when they started making good hp numbers from them.
I will say this on the EFI systems, Don't buy any EFI sled that was built before 2002 or 3. Cat was the first to perfect it (EFI in general and Battery-less) and it came in about that time, the last years of the zr's and the first year of the F series was when they got it dialed in well and since then their system has been flawless in stock form.
Posted January 10, 2010 - 07:21 AM
You might be surprised at how little of a price difference there is from the 90's to the early 2000 models that would get you into a much better sled for not much more $$.
Oh and unless you don't have any mechanical abilities for working on sleds don't even bother spending your $$ at a dealer on a sled of that age, your paying too much for what you will get because there's a certain amount that is worked into that cost for customer service on a sled of that age. IMHO
Posted January 10, 2010 - 07:25 PM
i am in northern indiana if that makes a difference on price
Posted January 11, 2010 - 10:30 AM
Another Great option if the price stays low
Keep your eyes peeled and you should be able to find a good sled for that money in the mid to late 90's
Posted January 12, 2010 - 07:16 PM
thanks for your help though. i think i will stay away from one of the older efi s
Posted February 15, 2010 - 04:52 PM
Posted February 17, 2010 - 08:32 PM