Riding in the sand
Posted May 05, 2003 - 07:29 AM
Posted May 05, 2003 - 07:46 AM
Posted May 05, 2003 - 08:11 AM
In the soft sand you want to make the compression up front stiffer. And you may want to lower the pre sag in the rear about 5 mm, since the WR 450 is prone to be a little front heavy. (assuming your at stock settngs)
Posted May 05, 2003 - 08:18 AM
Posted May 05, 2003 - 08:33 AM
Good sand tires like S12s, Dunlop 773, etc., help a lot. Also, when you're in sand, you have to stand up, keeping your feet on the pegs and letting the bike float under your body. Run a gear lower than you normally would at the same speed on harder surfaces to keep the sand from bogging the motor down. You need to be able to keep the front end up and planing over the sand. Center your weight forward and back on the bike. The forward attack position riding style will only work if you're charging hard. As soon as you let off on the throttle the front end will knife in. To counteract that, you have to have your weight centered or a little rear of center. If you are slowing down a lot, hang your butt over the rear fender as you do so. Turning in the sand is tricky because if you put too much weight forward, it will knife in and too far back it will wash out. When turning, sit down, lean your upper body back but still throw your inside leg forward. This will weight the front for turning but still keep the majority of your weight centered so it won't knife in. It sounds tricky and it is. I still goof up from time to time. The good part is that sand is soft so you don't get hurt as bad when you crash in it.
Posted May 05, 2003 - 11:29 AM
Posted May 05, 2003 - 12:31 PM
Posted May 05, 2003 - 03:22 PM
Posted May 06, 2003 - 06:21 AM
Riding in sand is almost the opposite from what your used too.
Keep your weight OFF the front end and steer with the back end (throttle) as much as possible. Also, keep your speed up so your front wheel skims over the surface.
As for how the WR is in sand... it's not bad. The WR is kind of a neutral handler. Longer slower turning bikes are best and quick turning bikes are worst. (the opposite is the case for woods riding) My old XR200R (old tall version) steered on a dime... and could give you major tank slappers in sand if you weren't careful!!!
Posted May 09, 2003 - 11:42 AM
Posted May 09, 2003 - 02:57 PM
If you really want a difference run a 20 inch front tire.
Eww. I'm going to have to respectfully disagree with you there. If you think your bike hunts a bit with a 21 a 20 will only make it worse. The larger meat will float more instead of sticking in a rut.
The Dunlop 756 is a very good sand tire and won't chunk knobs off very easily.
As for the rut chasing and line-hunting, those are just the facts of life when riding in sand. That is all I ride in, and I still have problems with that. You really need to concentrate on holding your line, using body english, brakes and throttle, and looking ahead to your next line.
As for turning in sand it probably requires more weight transfer and upper body man-handling than the terrain you are more used to. Turning in sand is just plain hard, but turning in sand with a Dunlop 739 is just plain frustrating. That tire is worthless in the sand.
Hope this helps.
So, how do you make a bike turn on hard pack (in case I ever need to know this)?
Posted May 09, 2003 - 04:02 PM
Posted May 09, 2003 - 04:25 PM
Try a 20 inch if you get a chance. Theory and reality are two different animals.
I really like my setup in sand.
Posted May 09, 2003 - 10:27 PM
I rode the same bike with a 21" on there and the stock (read: crappy in sand) front tire, and it was 1,000% better than the 20. The larger tire seemed to float over the top so it wouldn't hold a line. I suppose I didn't have time to get used to it, but I'd definitely say that my 20 minute impression was "Ewwwww."
I will say that it was a very, very noticeable difference. It totally transformed how the bike handled.
Posted May 09, 2003 - 10:42 PM
I love getting in a wash and racing with my buddies. On the slower trails, it takes a lot of work. Tire, suspension, air pressure and riding position and fatigue really make a difference.
We ride miiiiillles of sand all the time out here. Especially after a good wind storm.