YZ450F 2010 FI & IG Map Settings?


47 replies to this topic
  • ASH49

Posted December 15, 2009 - 02:37 AM

#1

Hey guys - I am looking for some help in making the power on my YZ450F 2010 model a progressive power curve. Ideally taper off bottom end snap and build the power all the way to the top. Has anyone got recommendations for FI & IG Map Settings (using GYTR Power Tuner)?

  • ASH49

Posted December 15, 2009 - 02:46 AM

#2

I pulled below off an internet site however it probably confused me more because current map on bike was 0's in all areas. Agian any help would be appreciated...

Setting for improved drivability
For riding in slippery conditions, such as on hard packed dirt or wet surfaces. This setting provides easier throttle work that can be experienced not only by experts but a wide range of YZ450F users.
Fuel Injection (FI)
-4 +4 -4
-4 +4 -4
-4 +4 -4
Igntion (IG)
+2 -5 +2
+2 -5 +2
+2 -5 +2
Setting for improved response
This setting is suited for a linear engine response to throttle work when riding on dirt with good traction or on high-load sand courses. This setting helps to achieve faster engine revving up through the rpm range for owners who want to ride more aggressively.
Fuel Injection (FI)
-2 -4 -4
-2 -4 -4
-2 -2 -2
Igntion (IG)
+3 +2 +2
+3 +3 +2
+3 +3 +3


  • Mike546

Posted December 19, 2009 - 06:34 PM

#3

Does the tuner come with any preset maps?

  • mxengineer4

Posted December 19, 2009 - 06:56 PM

#4

Does the tuner come with any preset maps?


No preset maps and no recommendations on what to change...just (9) places to save maps once you figure out what to change. I hope Yamaha comes up with some recommended maps for various track conditons and power characteristics.....

  • Thumper38

Posted December 20, 2009 - 05:38 AM

#5

Yea, I looked at my tuner book briefly and its a little more in depth than I thought! I am sure once I read the whole manuel it will be a little easier! I did not see any preset maps?????

  • CaptainKnobby

Posted December 20, 2009 - 06:19 AM

#6

Yea, I looked at my tuner book briefly and its a little more in depth than I thought! I am sure once I read the whole manuel it will be a little easier! I did not see any preset maps?????


I knew that tuner was going to be aggravating to use until you just sit down and study on it for like three or four hours.

You would have thought yamaha would have had at least 3 basic maps that they would recommend. I'v got my tuner but my bike has'nt came yet but when it does I should have this tuner figured out by then.

  • Mike546

Posted December 20, 2009 - 06:37 AM

#7

They talk about different maps in this review, Maybe we can contact them and get a copy of the maps or find out where they got them.

Review

They also have the tuner manual in a PDF for anyone that wants to look at it.

  • ASH49

Posted December 20, 2009 - 12:32 PM

#8

I tried the two maps on the weekend (1) Drivability & (2) Improved Response. Firstly loading the maps onto the CPU is a breeze and probably take 30 seconds... Track Conditions - Hard Pack Clay but recently groomed and had rain night before <PERFECT>

Feedback on (1) Drivability: it was a weird sensation because the motor reving in the low part of the rev but didn't get drive until the mid when it kicked but power tapered off really quickly.

Feedback on (2) Improved Response: seemed to be more snappy particularly low to mid but again lacked top end. I did not like this map at all...

So I changed to this map (slight variation to standard):
Fuel Injection (FI)
-1 0 0
-1 0 0
-1 0 0
Igntion (IG)
+1 0 0
+1 0 0
+1 0 0
This seemed to give me more throttle control off the bottom (reduced snap from idle) however I am searching for more progressive curve all the way through - Stonger Mid and Top End...

I contacted my car & bike dyno tuner and he said to bring it in and we will do some runs on the dyno and preprogram a few maps. They had previous experiences with guys playing with EFI and doing damage to bike motors. I really trust these guys and if anything it will give me a hands on lesson on how to get the most out of the GYTR Tuner.

  • fireball722

Posted December 20, 2009 - 01:20 PM

#9

please keep us informed after the dyno

  • hadameo

Posted December 20, 2009 - 01:26 PM

#10

Yes please keep us informed!I do not have my 10 yet but will soon.I am from Utah so all the tracks i go to are at different elevations.

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  • Thumper38

Posted December 20, 2009 - 02:10 PM

#11

I tried the two maps on the weekend (1) Drivability & (2) Improved Response. Firstly loading the maps onto the CPU is a breeze and probably take 30 seconds... Track Conditions - Hard Pack Clay but recently groomed and had rain night before <PERFECT>

Feedback on (1) Drivability: it was a weird sensation because the motor reving in the low part of the rev but didn't get drive until the mid when it kicked but power tapered off really quickly.

Feedback on (2) Improved Response: seemed to be more snappy particularly low to mid but again lacked top end. I did not like this map at all...

So I changed to this map (slight variation to standard):
Fuel Injection (FI)
-1 0 0
-1 0 0
-1 0 0
Igntion (IG)
+1 0 0
+1 0 0
+1 0 0
This seemed to give me more throttle control off the bottom (reduced snap from idle) however I am searching for more progressive curve all the way through - Stonger Mid and Top End...

I contacted my car & bike dyno tuner and he said to bring it in and we will do some runs on the dyno and preprogram a few maps. They had previous experiences with guys playing with EFI and doing damage to bike motors. I really trust these guys and if anything it will give me a hands on lesson on how to get the most out of the GYTR Tuner.



I am very interested in your findings, please report back! I would love try what you come up with!

  • fraser

Posted December 22, 2009 - 06:33 AM

#12

Anymore power unit setings anyone? I've not run mine in yet but would like to set it to a mellower traction curve to start off until I'm used to it. ave the power tuner but don't know what to set it to and don't want to just use trial and error as that could take ages,...

  • freerider_australia

Posted December 23, 2009 - 02:27 AM

#13

I pulled below off an internet site however it probably confused me more because current map on bike was 0's in all areas. Agian any help would be appreciated...

Setting for improved drivability
For riding in slippery conditions, such as on hard packed dirt or wet surfaces. This setting provides easier throttle work that can be experienced not only by experts but a wide range of YZ450F users.
Fuel Injection (FI)
-4 +4 -4
-4 +4 -4
-4 +4 -4
Igntion (IG)
+2 -5 +2
+2 -5 +2
+2 -5 +2
Setting for improved response
This setting is suited for a linear engine response to throttle work when riding on dirt with good traction or on high-load sand courses. This setting helps to achieve faster engine revving up through the rpm range for owners who want to ride more aggressively.
Fuel Injection (FI)
-2 -4 -4
-2 -4 -4
-2 -2 -2
Igntion (IG)
+3 +2 +2
+3 +3 +2
+3 +3 +3


just wondring if you could put a link to the site where u got the above info from
the power tuner is really easy to work but i need to find out a bit more what effect the settings have
thanks david

  • poliisi2

Posted December 23, 2009 - 11:54 AM

#14

I create map like this makes bike rev bit longer for me it was best map so far.

FI
+2+4+7
+0+2+4
-2+0+2

IG i keep +0 all in sand or +1 all if im hardpack.

  • DPW

Posted December 23, 2009 - 02:35 PM

#15

Feb '10 issue of Motocross Action has an article on how to use the tuner and the setting for four different maps.

  • ASH49

Posted December 23, 2009 - 11:21 PM

#16

Link for two maps (scoll down page): http://www.eatmydirt...-the-mould.aspx

I will be getting the bike on the dyno Mid Jan and will post results.

  • freerider_australia

Posted December 24, 2009 - 02:47 AM

#17

Link for two maps (scoll down page): http://www.eatmydirt...-the-mould.aspx

I will be getting the bike on the dyno Mid Jan and will post results.


thanks for that i have tried both maps the first i found as it said good drive no massive wheel spin
2nd map was agressive lots of power ever where
the power tuner is one of the best ideas and it not to over priced

  • Thumper38

Posted December 24, 2009 - 04:14 AM

#18

So I guess all 0's in both FI and IG is stock??????

  • aedwards07

Posted December 24, 2009 - 05:42 AM

#19

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  • beton6

Posted December 24, 2009 - 07:04 AM

#20

Which one did you like best?





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