snowbikes


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  • the ben

Posted 01 December 2009 - 02:01 PM

#1

Ok so every one is talking about them..I own a 2moto kit and love it...would there be interest in renting these...would you all tavel to do it..or if you saw a shop that did, would you stop in and ride?? let me know I appreciate all messeges and feed back.  thanks

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  • brentn

Posted 01 December 2009 - 02:13 PM

#2

I think rental is a good idea, there are just too many people including myself that don't want to take the gamble of spending all the cash on the kit and not like it.

I'd try a rental for sure :banghead:

I'm assuming that your talking about the sled conversion for a bike? Front ski, rear track?

  • the ben

Posted 01 December 2009 - 02:17 PM

#3

ya the the track kit...everyone just keeps talking about it and how it is good or how it sucks.. I really enjoy the snow on my bike...I was already looking at a shop and renting the kits would be a nice addition

  • brentn

Posted 01 December 2009 - 03:41 PM

#4

I've seen the same snow bikes for the past 2 years at my dealer just sitting there collecting dust.
It looks neat but I've never seen on in action, let alone seen anyone buy them.. I wouldn't say that everyone is talking about them up here.

Again, would be pretty sweet to try one out though.

  • Snowhawkaddict

Posted 02 December 2009 - 12:58 PM

#5

Quote, brentn

I've seen the same snow bikes for the past 2 years at my dealer just sitting there collecting dust.
It looks neat but I've never seen on in action, let alone seen anyone buy them.. I wouldn't say that everyone is talking about them up here.

Again, would be pretty sweet to try one out though.  Quote

Imagine a world where quads dominated by the mere fact that they were first on the scene. For years they had continued to improve upon themselves yet for some there just was not enough appeal. Others accepted since better to ride something than nothing, but still dreamed of something different. If a two wheeled version were introduced it would be a hard sell to most, ignoring the bycicle this would be the reality for the inventors of new machine, but for those willing to try what a treat knowing what we know now.

This scenario is what snowmobiles have had, why the one ski conversions took so long to evolve is baffling to me since powerfull motorcycles with large single cylander two/four stroke engines have existed long before the big long track large cc sleds. It seems these days only the dreamers or the wealthy get to know, but what I really think is parts availibility, dealer network, proven resale and brand loyalty are what the sheep understand and believe in.

I understand why he wants to start a rental company, it ain't about the money especially in this economy, it's about getting the word out. Consider the dust a protective film till the deserving dreamer wipes it off like the smirk on the jaw dropped snowmobiler trying to follow him. The ONESKI is here to stay!




To the sheep, your not gonna be any younger when you figure it out for yourself!:banghead:

Edited by Snowhawkaddict, 02 December 2009 - 03:12 PM.


  • biggziff

Posted 02 December 2009 - 04:15 PM

#6

I'd like to try one, but really...for $3500 I can buy a really nice 3-4 yr old Rev chassis sled and have a ball..for $1500 I can buy an older Rev and have just as much fun.

  • Snowhawkaddict

Posted 02 December 2009 - 06:10 PM

#7

Assuming you were drawn to this site's by TT's original theme, 4stroke motorcycles was the beginning, now four, two, twin, watercraft, etc, etc.
Really now it's become a motorized sport site, and the dominating one at that.

What makes folks choose a bike over a quad or vise versa? If a consumer who wants new your reasoning is reversed and a no brainer, for the price of a new leading edge two ski machine, two of these can be obtained for two riders. It's just in how you look at it, getting out there and doing it is the real challenge for most, I fear the in home video game versions of all these will be the real low cost WINNER!

Motorcycles, bikes, anything that mimics their experience give a feeling of flight, the rest are just filler!

Why dont Doug Henry just accept his fate and enjoy the filler to?

Edited by Snowhawkaddict, 02 December 2009 - 06:37 PM.


  • gumbellion

Posted 03 December 2009 - 07:55 AM

#8

I would rent one for sure.
I have wanted to get a snow kit since I first saw them, but having never ridden one there is no way I will drop a few grand only to realize that maybe it sucks.

  • off road rider

Posted 03 December 2009 - 08:27 AM

#9

biggziff said:

I'd like to try one, but really...for $3500 I can buy a really nice 3-4 yr old Rev chassis sled and have a ball..for $1500 I can buy an older Rev and have just as much fun.

dont forget the 2k for rebuilding the doo motor after 2500 miles, belts etc.. also the 15 Gal of fuel you will go threw in one day of having fun.. and the hassle of moving it around storage etc etc..
   I sold my hardly used REV to purchase a 2 moto.. I would do it a hundred times over.. But then I'm a moto rider, and dont particularly care for quads .although Ive have a few of them as well, I  might ride them twice a year if I'm lucky..
Bottom line if you are a bike guy, You will love the 2moto conversion after you ride it for a bit you will be chomping for more and never go back to a heavy sled.. A Hawk will be in your future..

  • biggziff

Posted 03 December 2009 - 01:35 PM

#10

off road rider said:

dont forget the 2k for rebuilding the doo motor after 2500 miles, belts etc.. also the 15 Gal of fuel you will go threw in one day of having fun.. and the hassle of moving it around storage etc etc..
   I sold my hardly used REV to purchase a 2 moto.. I would do it a hundred times over.. But then I'm a moto rider, and dont particularly care for quads .although Ive have a few of them as well, I  might ride them twice a year if I'm lucky..
Bottom line if you are a bike guy, You will love the 2moto conversion after you ride it for a bit you will be chomping for more and never go back to a heavy sled.. A Hawk will be in your future..

Did you have to rebuild a recent Rotax at 2500 miles?  Wow..  Mine had 5600 on it when I sold it...has 8900 on it now and has never been apart.  My buddy has the same sled (05 X 600 SDI) with 11,350 miles and everything is original.  You must of gotten a bad one.

Moving and storage is a problem and really why I sold the sled.  Hauling 3 hours to ride 5 hours and then hauling home sucked.  $200 in expenses with food and fuel isn't fun, but a cheap sled to ride around the house wouldn't be bad and I'd still have to haul the bike to ride so.....

  • off road rider

Posted 03 December 2009 - 04:06 PM

#11

biggziff said:

Did you have to rebuild a recent Rotax at 2500 miles?  Wow..  Mine had 5600 on it when I sold it...has 8900 on it now and has never been apart.  My buddy has the same sled (05 X 600 SDI) with 11,350 miles and everything is original.  You must of gotten a bad one.

Moving and storage is a problem and really why I sold the sled.  Hauling 3 hours to ride 5 hours and then hauling home sucked.  $200 in expenses with food and fuel isn't fun, but a cheap sled to ride around the house wouldn't be bad and I'd still have to haul the bike to ride so.....

Rotax does not provide oil to the outside crank bearings, the grease that they use is toast after about 2500 miles..they will run longer but its at the risk of a crank failure..
Then I live in Wa and ride mountains.. most any sled is past its prime after 3K
I dont think Ive seen a single modern mountain sled with more than 5K
Like anything else longevity depends on how it used..
We cant ride around the house here, but the steep and deep is only 45 min away..

  • biggziff

Posted 03 December 2009 - 06:19 PM

#12

BRP started using Isoflex in the crank bearings in 2000.  It's a good system as long as fuel doesn't get past the crank seal and into the bearing breaking down the grease, but if you get a crank seal leak you have bigger problems.

Mountain sleds that are used in pow pow are definitely more prone to failure than the sleds back east.  Lots of peeps here get tens of thousands of miles on sleds without tearing them down.

off road rider said:

Rotax does not provide oil to the outside crank bearings, the grease that they use is toast after about 2500 miles..they will run longer but its at the risk of a crank failure..
Then I live in Wa and ride mountains.. most any sled is past its prime after 3K
I dont think Ive seen a single modern mountain sled with more than 5K
Like anything else longevity depends on how it used..
We cant ride around the house here, but the steep and deep is only 45 min away..


  • bchunter

Posted 03 December 2009 - 08:34 PM

#13

I would rent one in a heartbeat for my DR.  A couple of guys around here have them and I have talked with them, but never seen one in use.  My WR450 buddy and I drool over them but neither of us want to fork out the $$ for one unless we try one.  And what better way then try one on your own machine.  I have sledded for years and I would love to try my bike in the snow to do a comparison.

Good idea.

  • snocompton

Posted 03 December 2009 - 08:41 PM

#14

I've been lurking here a while and finally registered a few days ago after I finally picked up a dirt bike. But, if anyone is interested in giving the explorer kit a look here in WA I know the importer and I can arrange it. He's a good guy and the Explorer kit is a good one.

Edit: Just got off the phone with him, if anyone really wants to give one a shot he has a couple demo KTM 530s set up that he will give demos on.

Edited by snocompton, 03 December 2009 - 08:57 PM.


  • bchunter

Posted 03 December 2009 - 09:03 PM

#15

That is what all the guys I have ran into here are using.  My guess is cause it is cheaper then the 2moto.  I like the idea of the 2moto being on sliders.  But if you could try them both, I guess that would be the way to go.

You are lucky you can demo them.  That is cool.

  • snocompton

Posted 03 December 2009 - 09:13 PM

#16

What do you mean sliders with the 2moto?

  • Snowhawkaddict

Posted 03 December 2009 - 09:43 PM

#17

He means hyfaxes, plastic runners on the bottom edge of the track rails similar to a snowmobile skid, this is upposed to AD Boivins boggey wheels in the center and the track allowing it to collapse when leaning on hardpack.
This hinders sidehilling ability but AD B sells an extra boggey wheel kit to support edge of track.

Your welcome to ride with us bchunter, come down south, four bike kits of both brands and a whole flock of Hawks, maybe I'll let you try my 2Moto Radix kit on your WR. Has to be 03-09' Yamaha Chassis, 3-4hr install.

  • Snowhawkaddict

Posted 03 December 2009 - 10:03 PM

#18

Wondered why your doctor was involved.:banghead:

  • x2468

Posted 04 December 2009 - 12:25 AM

#19

brentn said:

I've seen the same snow bikes for the past 2 years at my dealer just sitting there collecting dust.
It looks neat but I've never seen on in action, let alone seen anyone buy them.. I wouldn't say that everyone is talking about them up here.

Again, would be pretty sweet to try one out though.

Just go to 2moto.com. they have tons of videos. and every winter they have done demo rides in western canada and the western states. they will probably do that again this winter. there is probably a demo ride in alberta.

  • x2468

Posted 04 December 2009 - 12:31 AM

#20

Snowhawkaddict said:

He means hyfaxes, plastic runners on the bottom edge of the track rails similar to a snowmobile skid, this is upposed to AD Boivins boggey wheels in the center and the track allowing it to collapse when leaning on hardpack.
This hinders sidehilling ability but AD B sells an extra boggey wheel kit to support edge of track.

Your welcome to ride with us bchunter, come down south, four bike kits of both brands and a whole flock of Hawks, maybe I'll let you try my 2Moto Radix kit on your WR. Has to be 03-09' Yamaha Chassis, 3-4hr install.

You bought a 2moto snowhawkaddict????? wow, i'm in florida and away from snowest for over a year and look at what I missed. Guess you need to change your name to "oneskiaddict"




 
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