why do 'others' hate us? (dirtbike riders)

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  • NVR2L8

Posted 29 November 2009 - 06:55 PM

#41

I have to tell you guys a story about pursuits. I was a middle aged (10 years on the job) cop working in rural northern Nevada. I had been working in town earlier in the evening (midnight or so) when a request from the adjoining county came in for a prisoner transfer who had court the next day. I took it, the meeting location with the deputy was about 30 minutes away. about 5 minutes from the transfer my radar still on and a prisoner in the back I see a real fast mover coming down the highway, my radar locks at 160, I think holy sh**, black frigging Porsche 911, but nothing I can do it's a major no no to get into a pursuit with a felon in the back seat. So I make the transfer, talk to the other Deputy for a couple of minutes and head back to my JD. As I pull into town guess what I see sitting at a gas station, yep black Porsche 911. I walk in the guys drinking coffee talking to the clerk, he see's me and smiles. I asked him where he was coming from he says Idaho, going to Sacramento. I asked him if it was his porsche, he says no it's a friends he was delivering it to him. I said nice car, how fast does it go, he says at least 160, but you know that don't you, with a big smile on his face. I started laughing and said yeah, your under arrest. Just kidding. He laughed and so did I, spent about an hour talking to him and about everything he had done to the car before he sold it to his buddy. I'm not a big mechanic type but I was impressed. He offered to let me take it for a ride if I let him take my cruiser for a go. Temptation is truely an evil thing.

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  • BBA

Posted 29 November 2009 - 07:32 PM

#42

Ud_Luz said:


I've been kind of looking around for another 69 340 Dart but they're pretty scarce now. I wouldn't mind tinkering again.

Yeah I love the little 67-69 darts. This year I restored two for one customer (1 68, 1 69) both GTS's, both small block cars, one 340/ stick, one auto. I thought about trying to find one for myself since I really like that body style but your right, parts and a good car to start with are hard to find and really pricey. Still wouldn't mind having your moms old ragged out GTX sitting in my garage though:thumbsup:

  • ThumperMatty

Posted 30 November 2009 - 01:18 AM

#43

andean rider said:

Freedom here in Bolivia.Ride where u like when u like.Police never stop you even if you over take them on the rear wheel.Ride all the mountains no retrictions anywhere.People of the villages wave and smile as you tear past at 100 kmh in a cloud of dust.
Party at your house then!

  • ThumperMatty

Posted 30 November 2009 - 01:20 AM

#44

crzyatv said:

:lol: cops here ride suzuki 400 utility quads, Ive never been hassled but I dont really think ANYONE around here bothers to get plates or insurance for their dirtbikes or ATVs, because if you got no plates and you get away, the cops have no proof it was you (or your quad)...
Cops here ride Big bore KYM's, if you dont stop, they kick you off into the bushes! They are crazy riders, all day everyday they just ride! There is no escape!

  • minimotos95

Posted 30 November 2009 - 01:21 AM

#45

brentn said:

I've had a few granola bar eating hippies tell me that riding an off road vehicle destroys the forests...
Yea ahuh, that's why where I go and ride, a place that's had ATV use for over 30 years has a very lush and vegitative forest?


Friggen dumb ass people out there.

dont hate on granola bars, chocolate chip is the best

  • ThumperMatty

Posted 30 November 2009 - 01:23 AM

#46

cb60130 said:

Well... I hate to get this thread back on topic... BUT I think the reason that the general public does not like Dirt Bikers and really anybody in the OHV community is because any area that is easily accessed or seen regularly by the general public is the same area that is generally inhabited by the retard squid crowd. Any area close to a major roadway is where you will see the ass-hats doing donuts in the staging area and riding wheelies down the shoulder of the highway with his flip flops on and his hat on backwards...cuz he wants everybody to see how cool he is on his buddies overly clapped out shit box that hasn't had a silencer repack in a decade. Unfortunately these guys are the ones who shape our general reputation... and when they are out of gas and go home... the 30 empty cans of Natural Light are scattered around where the truck was parked. Rant Over:banghead:

Agreed! I'm only 23, but take home what I bring, even tuck the candy wrappers in my boot! Everyone should follow that rule! :thumbsup:

  • gumbellion

Posted 30 November 2009 - 07:01 AM

#47

I love how all the hippies rag on me about riding off-road.
Last summer I got into a "altercation" with some retards that were up in northern Ontario on a canoe/camping trip that decided to tear into me and the guy I was riding with about how we were single handily the cause of climate change. After taking a good amount of verbal abuse on the chin we bit our tongues and left. I had a good laugh at these guys since the 4 retards drove a ford expedition 1000 miles from Toronto to come and make a mess in the bush where I live and destroy the crown land camp site my buddy and I stopped at for lunch.
What I didn’t inform these douches of is that even though I look like a 23 year old dirt biking punk, I have a degree in Biology, and work for the Ontario Ministry of Natural Resources.
I noticed about 7 laws these guys were breaking while eating my sandwich so when we got back to town I stopped in at the area office and let a Conservation Officer know about these clowns. The next day he paid them a visit and charged them with 11 offences. The guys even had caught fish and just tossed them in the bush to rot because they didn’t know how to clean them, cut down trees all along the camp site to burn, left a fire un attended, and several other small fines.
The C.O. would never normally have charged people of one or 2 small screw ups but even he said that they were dicks to him so he threw the book at them. The people who think they are "green" or going to save the planet can be the worst.

  • 2004greenkx250f

Posted 27 June 2010 - 08:58 AM

#48

Sometimes I make the ride up the mountain to my cabin from the house in town. I just leave early in the morning about 6ish and keep my motor quiet until I get to the dirt and then open it up and get out there fast as possible, check everything and ride back. I'm usually back in bed by 8 AM and nobody saw the lime green Kawasaki leave and come back that morning. It's just a matter of not being stupid and not attracting the police and getting caught. The county cops around here don't really give a s*it. The city cops are the ones you don't want getting notified. I really don't do it for fun, mainly because my dirt bike only uses a half gallon of gas wheres my truck would use about 5 gallons to get up there and back.

  • Slims85

Posted 27 June 2010 - 09:23 AM

#49

Where I live in Ohio, the cops aren't bad. There are trails behind our neighborhood. And my whole street have dirt bikes. Half of us with 2 strokes the cops understand that land has no private property signs. The other neighbors that are annoyed by us riding are worse than the cops.

  • joelberg

Posted 27 June 2010 - 05:12 PM

#50

They hate us because they haven't ridden a dirt bike yet.

  • Canadian144

Posted 27 June 2010 - 06:03 PM

#51

I hate horses! They opened up a horse stable (you can pay to go for a ride, they also do camp and crap like that) up near my cottage, near a provincial park, and near all the trails I ride. There is a small section of the trail that runs in front of where the land that they bought. What do they do? Close it off.... fence you off of the trail (with logs and stuff) and force you to go up to the road. WTH. The trails have been here since the late 50's... my uncle, when he was a kid, used to ride them up there with his Ducati dirtbike. It's ridiculous that they can just close it off. I usually try to keep my RPMs up high whenever I go by, moreso to scare the people working there than the horses.

Since they are right next to a huge provinvial park, they have thousands of km's of trails which aren't open to dirtbikes/ATVs. They do use them, but they also take the horses onto the dirtbike/ATV trails sometimes. WTH. Not only do they crap all over the trails, they also block you from passing them, and give you dirty looks. One time me and a friend with a RM125 were racing around this section of the trail that is a loop, and we pulled up about 15-20 feet away from this group of horses, and slowed right down. One of the horses got spooked, and almost bucked the rider off. The whole group then comes over, and starts yelling at us, threatening to call the police. We asked them WTH they were doing on our trails, and that it's not our fault that the horse got spooked when you take it on trails for off-road vehicles. We kept riding around the "loop" section of the trail, and eventually a cop actually showed up. We showed him all of our paperwork, and that we had spark arrestors and our exhaust's weren't overly loud, he told us to have a nice day and then got mad at the person on the horse who called the police for wasting his time. :banana:

We then drove by her and basically did this: :p

  • adin

Posted 27 June 2010 - 06:15 PM

#52

its great freedom here in Indonesia:banana:

we ride with the cops.. LOL.. trail riding on weekend with local chief police and his troops.. all fun.
the local people love to watch the crowds of bike buzzing in their neighborhood...

trail riding here.... is free and fun...

  • Oaks16

Posted 27 June 2010 - 08:56 PM

#53

In Canadia; quadders and dirt bikers get along pretty well for the most part.
Until we see some 4-wheeling jerk off messing up the sick, tight, steep uphills.
Or doing doughnuts in the parking lot (at the riding area).

And yeah, I've gotta agree with all the people that said chicks like dirt bikes.
Man, I walked into 7-11 to pay for gas and I had my jersey and pants on due to excitement of riding. And this crowd of girls came over to talk to me all about dirt biking!

Whoo!

  • maximoose

Posted 28 June 2010 - 06:38 AM

#54

cb60130 said:

Well... I hate to get this thread back on topic... BUT I think the reason that the general public does not like Dirt Bikers and really anybody in the OHV community is because any area that is easily accessed or seen regularly by the general public is the same area that is generally inhabited by the retard squid crowd. Any area close to a major roadway is where you will see the ass-hats doing donuts in the staging area and riding wheelies down the shoulder of the highway with his flip flops on and his hat on backwards...cuz he wants everybody to see how cool he is on his buddies overly clapped out shit box that hasn't had a silencer repack in a decade. Unfortunately these guys are the ones who shape our general reputation... and when they are out of gas and go home... the 30 empty cans of Natural Light are scattered around where the truck was parked. Rant Over:banghead:
Sick-a-More???
Well as to why they hate us, I am sure the reasons are endless. I have managed to piss off my new neighbors and haven't even moved in yet. I bought a house in a rural area that is on 2.5 acres and checked with all city and county entities to determine if there is a rule/law/ordinance against having a track on my property or riding on my property. The answer was no, unless you are doing something criminal, such as drinking and riding. Well I am out checking the covered horse stalls I'll be selling and my new neighbor walks up and starts telling me how much irrigation costs, etc. I said I'm not irrigating. He says why not? Because I am putting in a track. His response is "well there will be opposition to that since I didn't move to the country to live next to a track" and does a 180 walks off. He's mostly pissed I think because: A) I don't really care what he thinks and B) he had an arrangement with the former owner where he would pay for irrigation and the owner would let him have his cattle on the land where the track is. So he wants to use something his way and doesn't want it used another way and I think that's where the problem lies. People didn't go to preschool and learn to share...

  • Chickenhauler

Posted 28 June 2010 - 07:23 AM

#55

How would you feel if someone bought the 2.5 acres next to your home and decided to put in something like a gravel pit with a rock crusher, or asphalt plant? Or better yet, a hog finishing operation?

To be honest, putting a track on a 2.5 acre lot, with the noise and dust that will produce isn't cool, especially when all the neighbors are on the same size lots.

I ride, and I'd probably be less than happy if someone wanted to build a track right next to me on a postage stamp sized lot.

You should check into this "agreement" with the neighbor, because if it is in writing, you have to abide by that contract until it expires. This also has to be brought to your attention by the seller up front. If it's just a handshake deal, then it isn't worth the paper it wasn't written on.

  • maximoose

Posted 28 June 2010 - 08:23 AM

#56

Don't need to check on the deal, because it is a foreclosed home. The track is going to have dust abatement and will be maintained. Don't misunderstand me when I say track, it will be a small track for sure, and it is not my intention to use it as a commercial facility. I'm not holding nationals at it. It is a practice track/fun to ride for the family and our 8 year old son. Everything on the track is street legal. Oh and there is a hog finishing operation about 2 blocks south...

  • Refresh

Posted 28 June 2010 - 08:43 AM

#57

I think mostly its because we are a cross between super mario and a Cheetah! A really loud Cheetah Mario!

  • Chickenhauler

Posted 28 June 2010 - 10:51 AM

#58

maximoose said:

Don't need to check on the deal, because it is a foreclosed home. The track is going to have dust abatement and will be maintained. Don't misunderstand me when I say track, it will be a small track for sure, and it is not my intention to use it as a commercial facility. I'm not holding nationals at it. It is a practice track/fun to ride for the family and our 8 year old son. Everything on the track is street legal. Oh and there is a hog finishing operation about 2 blocks south...

Just because it is a foreclosure does not mean that if there was a contract in place that it is void.

When I purchased my farm, it too was a foreclosure, and there was a land rental contract in place, and I had to abide by it, or repay the farmer the lost revenue (minus input cost) that the use of the land would have generated.

I did, however, get the land rental fees.

  • maximoose

Posted 28 June 2010 - 11:35 AM

#59

chickenhauler said:

Just because it is a foreclosure does not mean that if there was a contract in place that it is void.

When I purchased my farm, it too was a foreclosure, and there was a land rental contract in place, and I had to abide by it, or repay the farmer the lost revenue (minus input cost) that the use of the land would have generated.

I did, however, get the land rental fees.

Good to know. There is no written agreement I am aware of and this property has been vacant for over a year and he has not had his cattle on there since then, so I think it may be arguable that it is void by default.

  • 2004greenkx250f

Posted 29 June 2010 - 08:02 AM

#60

Canadian144 said:

I hate horses! They opened up a horse stable (you can pay to go for a ride, they also do camp and crap like that) up near my cottage, near a provincial park, and near all the trails I ride. There is a small section of the trail that runs in front of where the land that they bought. What do they do? Close it off.... fence you off of the trail (with logs and stuff) and force you to go up to the road. WTH. The trails have been here since the late 50's... my uncle, when he was a kid, used to ride them up there with his Ducati dirtbike. It's ridiculous that they can just close it off. I usually try to keep my RPMs up high whenever I go by, moreso to scare the people working there than the horses.

Since they are right next to a huge provinvial park, they have thousands of km's of trails which aren't open to dirtbikes/ATVs. They do use them, but they also take the horses onto the dirtbike/ATV trails sometimes. WTH. Not only do they crap all over the trails, they also block you from passing them, and give you dirty looks. One time me and a friend with a RM125 were racing around this section of the trail that is a loop, and we pulled up about 15-20 feet away from this group of horses, and slowed right down. One of the horses got spooked, and almost bucked the rider off. The whole group then comes over, and starts yelling at us, threatening to call the police. We asked them WTH they were doing on our trails, and that it's not our fault that the horse got spooked when you take it on trails for off-road vehicles. We kept riding around the "loop" section of the trail, and eventually a cop actually showed up. We showed him all of our paperwork, and that we had spark arrestors and our exhaust's weren't overly loud, he told us to have a nice day and then got mad at the person on the horse who called the police for wasting his time. :banana:

We then drove by her and basically did this: :p

Me too man! I've never had any problems with them on trails being that I live in Montana I find that quite odd. But what pisses me off is the Amish people that homesteaded over the hill from my cabin about 3 years ago. They bought over 5,000 acres of pasture for their horses, (Amish don't believe in cars or electricity) and they ride around in their little buggies usually drawn by a single horse, or they ride them horseback down the gravel road. Just the other day I was going up there to do some work and there was horse sh*t everywhere! I mean there was no way around it! Man that had me going! They should be courteous and at least shovel it off the road for god's sake! I've heard the saying "please pick up after your pup" but "please pick up after your horse?" Next time I ride my dirt bike up there I'm going to wrap it up next to their horse stable and scare the stupid horses.



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