Alternate lines being addressed via SCORE...

Started by johnnyairtime, Nov 05 2009 12:41 PM
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  • johnnyairtime

Posted 05 November 2009 - 12:41 PM

#1


I know this horse was beat to death in the 09 500, with some of the course being the "normal", and some of the deviations or alternate lines not being addressed. In fact, I remember this one specifically not being listed as an Alternate... and you didn't get dinged for taking it.

NOW, for the 1000... it's listed as an alternate. And it's even the shorter (and not so steep) line that has been burned in the last couple of years.

Check it out (Just below Mil Check and North of vineyards out of Santo Tomas)

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  • johnnyairtime

Posted 05 November 2009 - 12:47 PM

#2

Nice to see that not only has "Chain Guides" progress with SCORE been invaluable... but the course being marked electronically has stepped up too. Now with VCPs (49 of them), and more of the alternate lines (24 of them) being addressed... I think it's being better explained, better patrolled and the information is getting out to the teams rather well.

... 2009 Baja 1000 is going to be an epic race to spectate!!

  • motomanx

Posted 05 November 2009 - 01:08 PM

#3

johnnyairtime said:

... 2009 Baja 1000 is going to be an epic race to spectate!!

and Race!

thanks Andy for all your hard work.:thumbsup:

  • johnnyairtime

Posted 05 November 2009 - 01:47 PM

#4

motomanx said:

and Race!

thanks Andy for all your hard work.:thumbsup:

I heard that. I'm just jealous!!

  • johnnyairtime

Posted 05 November 2009 - 01:54 PM

#5

This is an interesting example of a "alternate line" that is acceptable (Alt.Line #17).

... however, you'll notice a smaller "inside" line, that is not necessarily acceptable (per track), but not marked as course or alternate line. The length of the inner line is about a 1/4 of a mile, with the next inner line being about a 1/2 mile. Obviously an advantage, but also at one apex... is 500' OFF designated course.

One more reason to KNOW the course, and stay off any questionable line. And another good reason to use a cheap (mapping) GPS when pre-running (in my opinion).

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  • johnnyairtime

Posted 05 November 2009 - 02:04 PM

#6

I don't think the uphill at the coast (West of Santo Tomas), was ever marked on GPS course as an "alternate line" either.... but it is now!

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  • Bluehorse

Posted 05 November 2009 - 08:44 PM

#7

Easy on a bike......not likely for a TT.

  • Trogdor

Posted 06 November 2009 - 07:10 AM

#8

johnnyairtime said:


NOW, for the 1000... it's listed as an alternate. And it's even the shorter (and not so steep) line that has been burned in the last couple of years.

Check it out (Just below Mil Check and North of vineyards out of Santo Tomas)

The Rubby Gordon line!!! Its the line that was created when they laid the fiber optic cable. The first time Rubby used it, there were spectator cars parked at the top blocking him and he had to get creative to jump back on the hwy!

  • gdbarr1976

Posted 06 November 2009 - 08:08 AM

#9

Will the course be marked well enough on race day that the "legal" line is obvious or is a gps going to needed just to be sure?

  • BajaBoundMoto

Posted 06 November 2009 - 08:33 AM

#10

Marked well enough except for the places the markers disappeared.
But GBarr, you're prerunning so don't sweat it.
And, the low desert is less likely to have missing arrows than areas such as the coast. But the coast will have the little reflectors that almost never disappear.
No worries.

  • gdbarr1976

Posted 06 November 2009 - 08:41 AM

#11

BajaBoundMoto said:

Marked well enough except for the places the markers disappeared.
But GBarr, you're prerunning so don't sweat it.
And, the low desert is less likely to have missing arrows than areas such as the coast. But the coast will have the little reflectors that almost never disappear.
No worries.

Thanks Tim. Me worry? I keep having this dream that I left my boots in the garage and it is 6:30am in Esenada Nov 20th. We leave in 4 days. No worries:lol:

  • BajaBoundMoto

Posted 06 November 2009 - 08:46 AM

#12

'96 Baja 1000 to La Paz, one of my teammates had all his gear stolen out of his truck parked in front of his hotel the night before the race. To late to do anything by the time they noticed. The start rider was told to just keep riding the next section. No problem!

  • johnnyairtime

Posted 06 November 2009 - 09:17 AM

#13

gdbarr1976 said:

Will the course be marked well enough on race day that the "legal" line is obvious or is a gps going to needed just to be sure?

To add to Tim's comments...

You'll be able to print all the alternate lines to paper (soon), as well as VCPs (with descriptions of why) and Speed Zones. As well, print the course notes and read up if your not 100% sure. Between all that literature, you can use it to put you to sleep if nothing else. ;)

  • johnnyairtime

Posted 06 November 2009 - 12:01 PM

#14

Complete PDF of all ALTERNATE LINES (with mileage, and google earth screen shot);

http://www.4shared.c..._Alt_Lines.html

  • BT4Stroke

Posted 06 November 2009 - 09:49 PM

#15

Just a note this line up the center through the cnayon had a drug operation in play durning the 09/500 and it was guarded with guyd with full auto machine guns. Stay out of there!!!http://www.thumpertalk.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=12042&stc=1&thumb=1&d=1257458067

  • Ret09

Posted 12 November 2009 - 09:42 AM

#16

Jezzz what dd we do in the days before GPS and Cell phones?

We pre ran the courses and then raced what we pre ran. If at the drivers meeting Sal said there was a course deviation (usually because something was so ugly impassable OR so many big name teams has a "known" short cut they were using) then each rider would pass this info on to the next until it got to the rider in that section. Like in 92 when the silt bed heading to the beach southwest of SI was changed because both Honda, Kawasaki and McMillian had a short cut marked with their color tapes around a nasty silt bed.

At race end, its nice to say you actually raced the entire race course as marked.:ride:



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