I have posted all of the Google Earth, Garmin GPX, SCORE maps, and Excell VCP files on my website for the 09 Baja 1000 in one spot here http://www.cprfabric...-Downloads.html . If you do not have the required programs to download the files, there are links supplied to do so very quickly. Either click the logos or follow the instructions in the text.

I hope that this helps keep everyone up to par with the new Virtual Check Point rules and course questions. Big thanks to Johnny Airtime for cleaning up the Garmin file and making it readable in a clean format and Andy Kirker for spearheading the file creations.

Chris Parker

Could you also post a "filtered" Garmin version with only 500 points so we can download it into GPSs like the 76C? THANKS!:ride:

TecateRay said:

:lol:... I knew that was coming next.

With the course being laid out in Lowrance, and the Garmin file containing 4 tracks of 9999 track points, you realize that's 39,996 points that have to be divided into 500... or 80 total tracks?!?!

Most Garmins only hold 20 tracks at a time, even if you use the onboard memory and load up one track of 9000 points... your still in for some work.

If your willing to sacrifice track points (losing fine detail from SCORE), I'd be happy to convert the file into something downloadable to your Garmin. Or maybe I can make three or four different downloads, depending on what part of the course your racing/pre-running. It's what I've done in past races, for our teams and friends, or online downloads.

Here is how to do it yourself in MapSource. (Trip and Waypoint manager) At least the version I have which is MapSource 6.15.6. Double click the track you want to change. (I have added a prefix of 1. through 4. to put them first in the track list. A window will pop up. Click "Filter" and another window will pop up. Apply filter to: "Entire Track" and highlight the radio button "Maximum Points". Change it to whatever you want and click "OK". This will dumb down the track to whatever number of points that you want and then just send it to your Garmin unit.

CPR FAB said:

Yes Sir... you can double click on each track, and "filter" it to 500 or less points. However, taking a 9999 point track... down to 500, really removes A LOT of detail.

You can also use the onboard memory to upload a larger than 500 point track. You have to rename the track appropriately as in the below example. And are only able to get 9999 points in a combination of "active log" tracks. They cannot equal more than 9999 in total. And the name of the track needs to be in CAPs (exactly like example). If not, you'll get a "truncate" message upon uploading.

Here's an example of the filter, and how to upload a track larger than 500 points;

johnnyairtime said:

With the smaller MC friendly units you don't really have a choice anyway. As you know they only hold so much. I use a Garmin Etrex Legend because of the BIG fonts that are readable from the seat but I'm not sure (Although I will find out) how many points can be saved in a "Non Active" or saved file. I want to say 5000 but I think that's the active memory. Once they are saved I think it reduces them to a maximum of 500 or a 1000. You've gotta know this one. Help a brutha out...

CPR FAB said:

If you save an "active log" from within the GPS... yes, it reduces it (auto filters) it down to 500 track points. But we aren't talking about this ... we're talking about "uploading" a file to the GPS. The GPS will not take an edited track over 500 points. It will however, take a "ACTIVE LOG" track over 500 points, and up to 9999. ...this goes, for most handheld mapping Garmins (your Etrex included).

I second Tecate Ray's request. The first track portion of your Garmin file that I opened had 9,999 points. Also, those of us who use Garmin's RoadTrip software for Macintosh computers do not have the point filtering capabilities found in MapSource. I have a Garmin 76CSX, great GPS but not designed to handle such large tracks.

BajaFool said:

I deleted my comment here because it was wrong. Refer to post #4 and that will do it. Johnny and I have been saying the same thing just differently. Do #4 and you'll be there. If a Mac won't do it, buy a PC.

TecateRay said:

Chris should have it on his site soon enough, for now;
http://www.4shared.c..._-filtered.html

(PLEASE NOTE - this file has been edited from it's original intended format and should be used with caution!!!)

This thread would be great in English.

Danger Dave said:

No se habla GPS??

• Buy a Garmin unit. (Comes with computer connect cord)
  
• Get "Trip and Waypoint Manager" aka MapSource into your PC
  
• Go to http://www.teamcprfa...-Downloads.html and click on the Garmin file
  
• Your PC will (should) say "Open with MapSource?" (Yes)
  
• You will see the 09 B1K course
  
• Click on the "Tracks tab on the left" (The B1K in divided into 4 main tracks of 9999 points each)
  
• Double click one of the tracks (Track Properties Opens)
  
• Click filter
  
• Change "Maximum Points" at the bottom from 9999 to 500
  
• Click "OK" (Filtering will process for a second or two)
  
• Do that for each track you want to send to your GPS
  
• Highlight the tracks you want sent to your GPS and click the send icon at the top (with the arrow down)
  
• It will recognize your GPS, show it to you and ask to send
  
• Click OK
  
• Go to Baja
  
• Pre run
  
• Crash your brains out
  
• Realize it was all for nothing
  
• I'm getting Carpel Tunnel explaining this...
  
• Hope this helps

Danger Dave said:

I failed GPS in high school. I think DD was the instructor.


Seriously -- I don't see any need for a GPS on a motorcycle. Stay on the course, don't speed on the highway.......no penalties.

I'll be running a $27 Bicycle speedo on my "dashboard".

Johnnyairtime,
I tried to load your 4shared.com filtered file into Garmin RoadTrip. No luck. It has a .XML extension on it that I think is the problem. RoadTrip can download .GDB or .GPX file extensions, but apparently not ".GPX.XML".

Thanks, we're going down to pit so we really don't need the same detail level required by racers.:ride:

johnnyairtime said:

Not sure what happened to your download... but, it is a GPX file that is attached to the link. I also see, it's been downloaded a few times successfully. I tested it again this am, and it's positively a GPX file.

Here's the window you should get, when you click on the link (Then click "download now")

Johnnyairtime,
Tried it again. It is on my desktop with an extension of ".GPX.XML". When I attempt to import the file into Garmin RoadTrip, the file name is grey and can not be selected.

Tecate Ray, try downloading this file, please (he has also thrown off the shackles of oppression placed on him by the Dark Emperor who rules the land of spam, viruses, phishing, crashed programs and Windows Vista known as MicroSoft).

I will call Garmin this morning, I have them on speed dial, and hear what they have to say about this situation.

BajaFool,

Can't you just rename the file and take off the .xml extension? If you are in Windows, just highlight the file, press F2 and remove the .xml part.

BajaFool said:

Si Senor.... after download, edit the name of the file and strip off anything beyond .GPX ~ and you'll have your wish.

The next problem some of you will have is that the file containes 33 tracks (made up mostly of course alternate lines - 24 of them). Most Garmins can only upload 20 tracks. ... if you aren't a "racer", and don't care about alternate lines... simply delete them before upload. If you ARE a racer, and need all of the alt. lines in your GPS... as well as the full course, and speed zones - your going to have to get creative (I have a solution, but it's not pretty when viewed on a PC, or on the GPS screen and might be too confusing) ...in my opinion, best idea would be to know the 24 alternate lines (study them before pre-running or read the course notes) and don't rely on your GPS to show you the alternate (deleting them before upload).

...OR, I can mark the course with a waypoint in 24 locations (entrance to the alternate line), and name it appropriately. Something like "ALT1" and "ALT3" ... and so on up to "ALT24"

I hope that doesn't make it too confusing for the novice GPSer... or guy who simply wants to pre-run with everything on a GPS. I know DangerDave is spinning in his seat :smirk:

surfnride said:

I think most of this is geared for pre running. You gotta admit, the course isn't always marked all that well in places. Or was and locals mess with it. Near Viscano in 06 the locals messed up the markers something fierce and all kinds of people were lost in that area pre running. The fact that I had the course loaded saved me alot of precious time while a bunch of guys who didn't were running in circles for some time in that area.
As for racing, I personally use the trip computer and only have two large numbers on my screen: Speed and I use Distance to Next to know how far the next pit is if I have a problem. This helps me decide what to do in a pinch depending on how far I'd have to travel to get help.
I was also able to pass 2 guys in La Purrisima on the pavement because they were guessing their speeds and were waaay off doing about 45.
I'm not saying your wrong, just that it has worked for me in both instances fairly well.