Rather than conventional HD tubes, have any of you Baja veterans used the TuBliss inserts in your wheels in Baja?
Good? bad? doesn't matter?
TuBliss vs. tubes
Started by BentAero, Oct 08 2009 06:43 PM
17 replies to this topic
Posted 08 October 2009 - 06:43 PM
Rather than conventional HD tubes, have any of you Baja veterans used the TuBliss inserts in your wheels in Baja?
Good? bad? doesn't matter?
Posted 08 October 2009 - 08:00 PM
I spent a day riding with a friend in Big Bear- (his name rhymes with ryan) lots of rocks... He was using the Tubliss front -- Got a flat, had to remove it and install a regular tube. Seems like a big waste of money to me.
Posted 08 October 2009 - 08:05 PM
Bend a rim and your done. The guys I know that run them and like them don't ride BAJA some do run some very rocky Cali and Nev desert stuff but they all carry a spare tube. The temptation to run lower psi contributes too to the bent rim dealio.
mtz
mtz
Posted 08 October 2009 - 09:23 PM
mtzracing said:
Bend a rim and your done.
mtzracing said:
The temptation to run lower psi contributes too to the bent rim dealio.
I know someone (his name rhymes with tim) who'd be a great Tubliss real world test (real wheels, not pimped out fancy ones).
Posted 09 October 2009 - 05:35 AM
BajaBoundMoto said:
I know someone (his name rhymes with tim) who'd be a great Tubliss real world test (blue wheels, real ones!).
:smirk:
Posted 09 October 2009 - 07:44 AM
I have been running them for 1000 miles, so far the Dunlop 756, and MX51 fronts have leaked from cuts or torn knobs....i replaced it with a tube. The rear sytem using the 739 and MX51 have been bullet proof since day one. Finicky system that works great "when it works".
Posted 09 October 2009 - 07:47 AM
Tubliss are for track rats and people that only ride 5 minutes from a truck.
12 pages of tubliss banter here, one of the most outspoken posters in the thread has since put his Tubliss up for sale, how am I not suprised...
http://www.thumperta...ad.php?t=807210
12 pages of tubliss banter here, one of the most outspoken posters in the thread has since put his Tubliss up for sale, how am I not suprised...
http://www.thumperta...ad.php?t=807210
Posted 09 October 2009 - 09:45 AM
The Tubliss system was born out of an effort to reduce unsprung weight and eliminate pinch flats on the motocross track. On a closed course, I'm sure they're fantastic, but weren't designed with durability and survivability in mind. I would never venture into Baja with that kind of Achilles heel.
Posted 09 October 2009 - 10:01 AM
Plus, an Ultra HD Bridgestone is what, $12-16 compared to 100-ish for a Tubliss?
Posted 09 October 2009 - 06:08 PM
i use tubeless all the time.. i race best in the desert and various other desert races and i wont race without them.. i help russ pearson out all the time and he wont run a tube ever not even to go riding. back in the day some companys would have problems but the modern ones are awesome.. they even use them in the dakar rallies
Posted 09 October 2009 - 08:06 PM
I understand they worked out installation issues with the high psi sealing tube. Guys that run them would be advised to carry a tube. I understand it is not difficult to drop one in on the trail. Some run slim ( seems messy) or carry plugs too for punctures. Seams like a love it or hate product. Like my KTM!
mtz
mtz
Posted 10 October 2009 - 05:03 AM
I run the Tubliss system on my 300KTM in a Dualsport/ Enduro/ H.Scramble environment. No problems at all, however in my XR650 I would be hesitant for the simple fact of speed = dented rims. I have also found that it's best to balance the wheel once the Tubliss has been installed. Some folks racing the Dakar type events have switched to Tubliss & do so with success. Once you install the Tubliss a couple times & understand it's little quirks, the system works great & holds pressure.
Posted 10 October 2009 - 06:22 AM
Thanks for the feedback, guys. I think I'll pass for now, esp. for the Baja ride.
Posted 10 October 2009 - 06:29 AM
Although rims can still be dented, I have had fewer problems with dented rims with the Tubliss system even when running lower air pressures than I ever did with tubed tires. I believe that this is due to the extra rigidity provided by the high pressure Tubliss carcass against the tire beads.
Posted 10 October 2009 - 07:59 AM
Dust_Devil said:
Tubliss are for track rats and people that only ride 5 minutes from a truck.
12 pages of tubliss banter here, one of the most outspoken posters in the thread has since put his Tubliss up for sale, how am I not suprised...
http://www.thumperta...ad.php?t=807210
12 pages of tubliss banter here, one of the most outspoken posters in the thread has since put his Tubliss up for sale, how am I not suprised...
http://www.thumperta...ad.php?t=807210
You should be surprised.... :bonk:
(you continually take that "sale" comment out of context!)
I've got about 4 sets of Tubliss systems, and with 2 complete sets of wheels...(why not sell a pair?!) ...one set of wheels, Tubliss mounted 24/7. What's your point??
Tubliss system ROCKS!!!!
... and no, not just for the track hero.
Posted 10 October 2009 - 08:01 AM
BentAero said:
Thanks for the feedback, guys. I think I'll pass for now, esp. for the Baja ride.
Definitely not someplace to "get used to" a Tubliss system. But a great place to abuse the Tubliss and get your money's worth.
Been there... done that. I'd say (easily) about 1000+ miles on one set in Baja, and another 1500 miles up in the states. :thumbsup:
Both tubed, and tubliss have their perks... and downfalls.
For either, you simply need to be prepared in the event of a failure.
... each system, having it's own procedure on the trail.
Some old dogs, just don't like new tricks. ;)
Posted 10 October 2009 - 08:11 AM
mtzracing said:
Bend a rim and your done. The guys I know that run them and like them don't ride BAJA some do run some very rocky Cali and Nev desert stuff but they all carry a spare tube. The temptation to run lower psi contributes too to the bent rim dealio.
mtz
mtz
Severe bend (not the norm)... I can see it being an issue.
However, I've not only mounted them on bent rims, but bent rims in the process of riding and never had a leak.
Only leak I've encountered, was from a removal of the tire with a tire machine. And it tore up the inner liner valve stem. Manual install and removal of the tire is my procedure (from now on).
