Rear Bearing Seal

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  • sanjoh

Posted 17 September 2009 - 05:30 PM

#1


Just picked up a 2000 XR650L. I went to change the rear bearing seals and found this chunk of aluminum!

It doesn't look stock, can anyone provide some info?

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thanks,

John

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  • cleonard

Posted 17 September 2009 - 05:43 PM

#2

It's stock. Welcome to Honda engineering. It's called a bearing retainer and it is threaded into the hub.

You have three basic choices.
  • Get the proper tool. Motion Pro makes one.
  • Make your own tool.
  • Beat on it with a punch or drift and a hammer

I did the drift method the first time and made myself a tool for the second time. Using a drift kind of tears it up.

  • sanjoh

Posted 17 September 2009 - 07:14 PM

#3

Thanks.

I have a XR650R also and the rear hub has a seal in it.

Has anyone adapted a rubber seal to the L, the design looks to allow a lot more dirt, water, etc into the hub. The steel spacer did not get along well with the al bearing retainer:bonk:

  • truck6driver

Posted 17 September 2009 - 08:12 PM

#4

There is susposed to be a seal in the bearing retainer. It goes in from the inside of the retainer. I noticed that someone took a punch to the end of the retainer to keep it from backing off. That method will tear up the threads when you remove it. You might have to replace the retainer if it screws it up too bad. At a cost of about $21.00.


Ray

  • cleonard

Posted 17 September 2009 - 09:11 PM

#5

truck6driver said:

There is susposed to be a seal in the bearing retainer. It goes in from the inside of the retainer. I noticed that someone took a punch to the end of the retainer to keep it from backing off. That method will tear up the threads when you remove it. You might have to replace the retainer if it screws it up too bad. At a cost of about $21.00.


Ray

That is actually what the Honda manual tells you to do.

  • HeadTrauma

Posted 18 September 2009 - 09:10 AM

#6

All the other methods I have seen say to carefully drill out the punched spots(not too much, though, or it's new hub time! $$$!) so the retainer doesn't get shredded. They also say to punch it again upon reinstallation. I wasn't about to do that, so I used blue removable Loctite instead. I really hate that retainer design...

I also highly recommend getting double-sealed bearings, not the single-sealed bearings that Honda uses and sells. The doubles will do a better job of keeping grease in and crud out.

  • Brumby Boy

Posted 19 September 2009 - 06:24 AM

#7

DO NOT USE A HAMMER OR PUNCH, I decintergrated mine in my 600 doing it that way, dont be a tight ass and buy the propper tool or make one, it will save you loads of hassle in the end, and make sure you clean and lube the threads before re-install or you will strip the hub and/or retainer as I almost did...

  • scalejockey

Posted 19 September 2009 - 07:25 AM

#8

HeadTrauma said:

All the other methods I have seen say to carefully drill out the punched spots(not too much, though, or it's new hub time! $$$!) so the retainer doesn't get shredded. They also say to punch it again upon reinstallation. I wasn't about to do that, so I used blue removable Loctite instead. I really hate that retainer design...

I also highly recommend getting double-sealed bearings, not the single-sealed bearings that Honda uses and sells. The doubles will do a better job of keeping grease in and crud out.
:thumbsup: :thumbsup:

Drilling out the punched spots is the solution for a clean exit.It will also make it easy to put it back in.
Just a note on doing the double sealed bearings,pop a seal off and add a little more greese.The bearings come with very little greese in them.(cheap bass tards)

  • Onederer

Posted 19 September 2009 - 07:35 AM

#9

Just a head up, when you buy a bearing and seal kit, look for the ones that come with a bearing retainer. Some do, some don't.

Destroying a retainer when replacing bearings and haveing to order a new retainer and wait to ride is'nt fun.

  • Brumby Boy

Posted 19 September 2009 - 03:32 PM

#10

Onederer said:

Destroying a retainer when replacing bearings and haveing to order a new retainer and wait to ride is'nt fun.

Yea +1 Trust me I know from experience with Honda stuffing me around for 6 weeks with my new one...



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