I'm a realist, so it's very easy for me to see things plainly. Your rants and ramblings, and feeble attempts at comedy are obscured by being a zealous fan of Yamaha. And there is nothing wrong with that position. Unless, of course, an objective opinion is required.
But for anyone who doesn't swear an allegiance to Yamaha (or any other manufacturer), the similarities between it and the Cannondale are obvious.
Regardless of who invented what first, it still remains a fact that Cannondale was the first in the world to mass produce a reversed exhaust, programmable fuel-injected, dual cammed F1 type 4-stroke, alum. perimeter framed, forward-mounted air intake, single-shocked, inverted fork motocross bike, all in one package. And it also included a hydraulic clutch and electric start. I hope this isn't to hard for you to grasp.
Yamaha may very well be the first to refine such a similarly awesome package. Which is something Cannondale was unable to achieve. But the reasons for their failure are really inconsequential as it relates to this debate. Because as Yamaha is on the verge of proving, they weren't conceptual in nature.
The only thing I genuinely see new about the Yamaha when compared to what others have done, is their holistic approach to mass centralization. Which is a lot.
The world can be beautiful place whether you drive a Pinto or Corvette. Even when seen without a tint of blue. You should try it some time.
Ok ... I agree with both of you in a way...but TK1 your argument just goes back to the fact that even the YZ400F would be a "copy" of things past.... we have already settled this in this thread... the YZ450F is in no way , shape , form , or fashion a 'copy' of the cannondale....
I'm sorry to rain on your parade. but you are just wrong.
A GSX-R600 has an aluminum perimeter frame, inverted forks, a single rear shock, front mounted air intake, tuneable fuel injection, 4 stroke dual cam motorcycle...
So you are telling me if we throw some offroad tires on it and release it as the GSX-R600 MX and call it a motocross bike that it is a copy of the Cannondale MX440???
I don't think so , my friend.
ideas are ideas and things done with those ideas can be revolutionary , whether someone tried it before or not.....
As for the Cannondale - copy YZ450F.....
Kawasaki makes a 450F... are you calling it a copy of the Honda
are you calling the RM-Z250 a 'copy' of the YZ250F?
this argument for the Cannondale is ignorant at best.
Yes they are similar. but for that matter a 1979 Honda Elsinore 250 and a 2007 CR250R are similar..... it is just retarted to call the YZ450F a copy of the MX440... I'm getting dumber just listening to this jargon...
and just so we are clear on 2 things:
1. I agree that Cannondale may have been the first to offer the package.. but nonetheless the bike blew out the ass and didn't make it, so in my eyes a failure does not count. the damned thing didn't work.
2. I'm not a "Blue-blinder" wearing, "over-zealous" fan of Yamaha, or whatever you want to say... I freakin' bleed