Dynojet Stage 2 Confusion


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  • neckyjive810

Posted July 06, 2009 - 07:42 AM

#1

I am a Bit confused by this as the uk dynojet site does not show a stage 2 kit for the S only for the SM?

I have copied the following from their web site


Suzuki Capacity Model Year Stage Code Price Comment
250 DR250S 90-95 1 & 2 DJS-3101 £73.46
350 DR350S 91-99 1 & 2 DJS-3137 £73.46
400 DRZ400S 00-07 1 DJS-3109 £73.46 US MODEL
400 DRZ400SM 05-08 1 & 2 DJS-3110 £73.46 US MODEL
400 GSF400 BANDIT M-R 91-95 1 DJS-3134 £113.93
450 GS450 80-82 1 DJS-3305 £88.01
450 GS450 83 1 DJS-3113 £88.01
450 GS450 83 3 DJS-3113 £88.01
500 GS500 EK-K3 89-03 1 DJS-3128 £88.01
500 GS500 EK-K3 89-03 3 DJS-3128 £88.01
550 GS550 83-86 1 DJS-3108 £113.93
550 GS550 TWIN CARB 83-86 3 DJS-3308 £113.93
550 GS550E 82 1 DJS-3314 £113.93
600 GSF600 BANDIT 00-04 1 DJS-3190 £113.93
600 GSF600 BANDIT T-X 96-99 1 DJS-3120 £113.93
600 GSX-R600 RV-RW 96-98 1 DJS-3155 £113.93 DOESN'T FIT BIKES WITH RED INLET STACKS
600 GSX-R600 RX-RY 99-00 1 DJS-3160 £113.93 HAS RED STACKS FOR ID PURPOSES
600 GSX600 FJ-FK 88-89 1 DJS-3121 £113.93
600 GSX600 FJ-FK 88-89 3 DJS-3321 £113.93
600 GSX600 FL-FV 90-97 1 DJS-3131 £113.93
600 GSX600 FL-FV 90-97 3 DJS-3131 £113.93
600 GSX600 FW-FY 98-01 1 DJS-3159 £113.93
600 RF600 RR-RV 94-97 1 DJS-3146 £113.93
650 DR650RSE M-S 90-97 1 & 2 DJS-3138 £73.46
650 DR650S 96-08 2 DJS-3138 £73.46
650 DR650SE T 96-97 2 DJS-3256 £73.46
650 GS650 81-82 3 DJS-3310 £113.93
650 SV650S X-K2 99-02 1 & 3 DJS-3171 £88.01
700 GS700 80-85 1 DJS-3125 £113.93
700 GS700 80-85 3 DJS-3125 £113.93
750 GSX-R750 F-G-H 85-87 3 DJS-3X18 £88.01
750 GSX-R750 J-K 88-89 1 DJS-3122 £113.93
750 GSX-R750 J-K 88-89 3 DJS-3122 £113.93
750 GSX-R750 L-M 90-91 1 DJS-3135 £169.34
750 GSX-R750 L-M 90-91 3 DJS-3335 £169.34
750 GSX-R750 WN-WS 92-95 1 DJS-3139 £169.34
750 GSX-R750 WT-WV 96-97 1 DJS-3149 £113.93
750 GSX750 FK-FS 89-97 1 DJS-3130 £113.93
750 GSX750 FK-FS 89-97 3 DJS-3130 £113.93
750 GSX750 FW-FK3 98-06 1 DJS-3158 £113.93
750 GSX750 RETRO 98-99 1 DJS-3162 £113.93
750 GSX750E 80-85 1 DJS-3102 £113.93
750 GSX750E 80-85 3 DJS-3315 £113.93
800 VS800 INTRUDER GLN-GLT 92-08 1 DJS-3147 £88.01
800 VX800 N-R 92-97 1 DJS-3147 £88.01
800 VZ800 MARAUDER V-K1 96-01 1 DJS-3143 £88.01
850 GS850 80-83 3 DJS-3306 £113.93
900 RF900 RR-RW 94-99 1 DJS-3152 £113.93
1000 GS1000 78-79 3 DJS-3304 £113.93 SLIDE CARBS ONLY
1000 GS1000/1100 (8V) 80-82 1 DJS-3103 £113.93
1000 GS1000/1100 (8V) 80-82 3 DJS-3103 £113.93
1100 GSX-R1100 G-J 86-88 1 DJS-3123 £113.93
1100 GSX-R1100 G-J 86-88 3 DJS-3323 £113.93
1100 GSX-R1100 K-L 89-90 1 DJS-3127 £169.34
1100 GSX-R1100 K-L 89-90 3 DJS-3127 £169.34
1100 GSX-R1100 M-N 91-92 1 DJS-3136 £169.34
1100 GSX-R1100 M-N 91-92 3 DJS-3336 £169.34
1100 GSX-R1100 WP-WR 93-94 1 DJS-3145 £113.93
1100 GSX-R1100 WS-WT 95-96 1 DJS-3144 £113.93
1100 GSX1100 FJ-FR 87-96 1 DJS-3123 £113.93
1100 GSX1100 FJ-FR 87-96 3 DJS-3323 £113.93
1100 GSX1100 GN 92-95 1 DJS-3142 £169.34
1100 GSX1100/1150 (16V) 80-86 1 DJS-3133 £113.93
1100 GSX1100/1150 (16V) 80-86 3 DJS-3133 £113.93
1200 GSF1200 BANDIT K1-K4 01-05 1 DJS-3151 £113.93
1200 GSF1200 BANDIT K1-K4 01-05 3 DJS-3351 £113.93
1200 GSF1200 BANDIT T-Y 96-00 1 DJS-3153 £113.93
1200 GSF1200 BANDIT T-Y 96-00 3 DJS-3353 £113.93
1400 VS1400 INTRUDER GLPH-GLPW 87-08 1 DJS-3126 £88.01
1500 VL1500LC INTRUDER W-X 98-02 1 DJS-3161 £88.01

  • beemerwolf

Posted July 06, 2009 - 08:24 AM

#2

Hey Jive......

On the DRZ400, the stage 1 & 2 kits are the same thing for the street models (they really only are a stage 1 no matter what they are called & a stage 2 kit does not exist!!!):worthy:

So it really doesn't matter what it says.........probably only a typing deficiency on the part of the keyboard operator:smirk:

hope this helps!!

  • neckyjive810

Posted July 06, 2009 - 10:02 AM

#3

Hey Jive......

On the DRZ400, the stage 1 & 2 kits are the same thing for the street models (they really only are a stage 1 no matter what they are called & a stage 2 kit does not exist!!!):worthy:

So it really doesn't matter what it says.........probably only a typing deficiency on the part of the keyboard operator:smirk:

hope this helps!!


Still seem's strange, just copied text below from Dynojet usa, which in turn means that if there is a typo on the uk site there is also one on the usa site. (just seem's strange, that's all)

350 SUZ 90-99 DR350 S stage 1 & 2 3137 $64.89 dynojet -

400 SUZ 00-09 DRZ400 S stage 1 3109 $64.89 dynojet -

400 SUZ 00-07 DRZ400E DIRT ONLY stage 2 3111 $64.89 dynojet -

400 SUZ 03-07 DRZ400E DIRT ONLY CALIFORNIA stage 1 & 2 3111CA $64.89 dynojet -

400 SUZ 05-09 DRZ400SM stage 1 & 2 3110 $64.89 dynojet -

  • bumtarder

Posted July 06, 2009 - 10:22 AM

#4

the only difference between a stage 1 and a stage 2 rejet is the 3"x3" modification to the stock airbox.it's as simple as that.

btw,the james dean jds005 jet kit is better as it comes complete with float bowl screws and a 25 pilot jet along with great instructions.

  • mickeydee

Posted July 06, 2009 - 10:40 AM

#5

there is a difference between the stg 1 and 2 kits.the stg 2 kit is ment for the sm model and has a different needle than the stg1 kit.for a s model use the stg 1 kit and get some richer main jets and a 25 pilot jet.the JD kit is a better kit to get

  • ptgarcia

Posted July 06, 2009 - 10:44 AM

#6

there is a difference between the stg 1 and 2 kits.the stg 2 kit is ment for the sm model and has a different needle than the stg1 kit.for a s model use the stg 1 kit and get some richer main jets and a 25 pilot jet.the JD kit is a better kit to get




What I've always wanted to know is if the SM and S carbs are the same, why different kits?

  • neckyjive810

Posted July 06, 2009 - 10:59 AM

#7

How can the stage 1 & 2 kits be the same.

Eddie say's in another post that stage 1 kit jet's are not big enough if you are doing a 3x3 air mod.


I just dont get why dynojet say SM stage 2 & S stage 1 Why do they say 3x3 air mod for SM & not for S WHY! WHY! WHY!:worthy: :banana: :banana:

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I have just found the following in the fact section written by Eddie, do the same jet size's come in the dj kit and jd kit if not what's different and how?


Sample Jetting recommendations (note: these are different for different elevations and different bikes)


SM

- 150 main jet (155mj for full exhaust system)
- 25 pilot jet
- 2nd clip on needle from top
- 2.5 turns out on fuel screw


S

- 140 – 142.mj (bigger for exhaust)
- 25 pilot jet
- 4th position from top
- 2.5 to 3 turns out on fuel screw

Burned’s fuel screw setting method:

  • bumtarder

Posted July 06, 2009 - 10:25 PM

#8

I just dont get why dynojet say SM stage 2 & S stage 1 Why do they say 3x3 air mod for SM & not for S WHY! WHY! WHY!:worthy: :banana: :banana::


it's really quite simple.dynojet never updated the 3109 kit for the stage 2 as it was largely developed by eddie.then several years later the sm came along and a 3110 kit was developed specifically for it to include the stage 2 instructions but it left a lot to be desired when compared to the james dean jds005 jet kit.

  • bumtarder

Posted July 06, 2009 - 10:31 PM

#9

What I've always wanted to know is if the SM and S carbs are the same, why different kits?


according to eddie quite a while back the carbs are the same but the sm has a larger main air jet casted into the carb and the jetting is slightly different and that is why a kit was developed specifically for it.but both 3109 and 3110 kits can be made to work with either carb from what i understand.

  • neckyjive810

Posted July 07, 2009 - 11:12 AM

#10

My understanding is that dynojet stage 1 kit has smaller jet's than stage 2, is that correct?

If it is how can the stage 1 kit be made to work the same as stage 2.
would you have to get bit's from else where.

Also can anyone tell me what the settings are for the S and the SM seperately, for both bikes at sea level with 3X3's cut and full after market exhuast's + K&n with the Dynojet Kit:worthy:





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