Thanks for all the input from my other post's about my brother looking for a bike. He has been looking for a while he has looked at the green KLX 300 <font color="yellow"> Yellow DRZ250 and now <font color="orange">Orange EXC 450 he has heard that the WR450F is too hard to ride when you are tired, is this true??? he loves my WR250 but when we went to the dunes it was lacking in power (we rarely go to the dunes) we mostly ride rocky, narrow trails. I have done alot of homework on all these bikes and would like you'r feeling on the subject. thanks in advance. I will keep trying to make him get a WR250F!! I love mine.
Orange or Blue
Started by brobixr250, Feb 26 2003 03:19 PM
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Posted 26 February 2003 - 03:19 PM
Thanks for all the input from my other post's about my brother looking for a bike. He has been looking for a while he has looked at the green KLX 300 <font color="yellow"> Yellow DRZ250 and now <font color="orange">Orange EXC 450 he has heard that the WR450F is too hard to ride when you are tired, is this true??? he loves my WR250 but when we went to the dunes it was lacking in power (we rarely go to the dunes) we mostly ride rocky, narrow trails. I have done alot of homework on all these bikes and would like you'r feeling on the subject. thanks in advance. I will keep trying to make him get a WR250F!! I love mine.
Posted 26 February 2003 - 03:49 PM
Tell him to buy orange if he wants crappy suspension. That goes for the rear in particular. As far as blue goes, anything with a linkage is an improvement in comparison to orange!
Posted 26 February 2003 - 04:25 PM
My vote would be for the WR-250F but it boils down to which bike puts the biggest grin on "HIS" face.
Posted 26 February 2003 - 04:57 PM
Orange's suspention ain't all that bad!!
I will admit, it is NOT yamaha suspention though. I rode my dad's 426, and my suspention is far worse, but then, I had no compression or rebound either. After a revalve, it's not all that bad...infact, it feels quite nice!
As far as harder to ride, a KTM engine will be much, much smoother. Sorry, factoid #1. KTM engines are some of the most controllable motors in existance. Yamaha's are "harder to ride" only because they have a hit to them. They have a definite area of RPM's where they suddenly kick in and are like wild beasts. KTM's are like a car. That's the reason they are "easier to ride".
Linkless is far better than linked though. Come on, simplicity man, simplicity. Perhaps the WP PDS shock is not completely perfect compared to the ancient link design, but I bet we'll see alot of linkless bikes in some years. It's simpler, lighter, less failure points, and works just as well. Japanese machines are way too heavily stocked in linkage to suddely go linkless. Just watch.
Both are good though!
Just depends if you want to try a different bike!! I won't buy anything but KTM's, and I don't doubt my dad would stick with Yamahas. Buy them both!!
If you want a duner bike, go with the 525 displacement. hehe, more power than two people need!!
I will admit, it is NOT yamaha suspention though. I rode my dad's 426, and my suspention is far worse, but then, I had no compression or rebound either. After a revalve, it's not all that bad...infact, it feels quite nice!
As far as harder to ride, a KTM engine will be much, much smoother. Sorry, factoid #1. KTM engines are some of the most controllable motors in existance. Yamaha's are "harder to ride" only because they have a hit to them. They have a definite area of RPM's where they suddenly kick in and are like wild beasts. KTM's are like a car. That's the reason they are "easier to ride".
Linkless is far better than linked though. Come on, simplicity man, simplicity. Perhaps the WP PDS shock is not completely perfect compared to the ancient link design, but I bet we'll see alot of linkless bikes in some years. It's simpler, lighter, less failure points, and works just as well. Japanese machines are way too heavily stocked in linkage to suddely go linkless. Just watch.
Both are good though!
Just depends if you want to try a different bike!! I won't buy anything but KTM's, and I don't doubt my dad would stick with Yamahas. Buy them both!!
If you want a duner bike, go with the 525 displacement. hehe, more power than two people need!!
Posted 26 February 2003 - 05:44 PM
I agree w/ dethwshbkr, i have a yz250f and it is not as smooth as my dads 450 mxc. But i like my bike better. 
Posted 26 February 2003 - 06:41 PM
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But i like my bike better.
This is coming from a guy who races pickels, not bikes!!
Posted 27 February 2003 - 02:51 AM
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As far as harder to ride, a KTM engine will be much, much smoother. Sorry, factoid #1. KTM engines are some of the most controllable motors in existance. Yamaha's are "harder to ride" only because they have a hit to them. They have a definite area of RPM's where they suddenly kick in and are like wild beasts. KTM's are like a car. That's the reason they are "easier to ride".
My guess is that you haven't ridden the 03' WR's.The 03's Engine make very smooth power compared to the WRF's of past.
Posted 27 February 2003 - 07:18 AM
Wouldn't put the drz250 in the same class as the other bikes
maybe the DRZ400 if he isn't racing would be a good option? Smooth motor, average suspension, a whole lot cheaper but heavier too. Great trail bike -- and since they haven't changed in three years and are very reliable, you can safely pick up a slightly used one for $3000-$3500
maybe the DRZ400 if he isn't racing would be a good option? Smooth motor, average suspension, a whole lot cheaper but heavier too. Great trail bike -- and since they haven't changed in three years and are very reliable, you can safely pick up a slightly used one for $3000-$3500
Posted 27 February 2003 - 11:41 AM
Indeed......
no, I have never ridden one. I'm going off of what I have taken from riding multiple other japanese machines. Street, or dirt.
Yamaha's have always felt sluggish in responsiveness, way too planted in the front, and much more of a revvy bike than I care for.
How's the phrase go? "Power is nothing without control".
having a smooth bike can be just as important as having 100 horses. Especially for woods!
no, I have never ridden one. I'm going off of what I have taken from riding multiple other japanese machines. Street, or dirt.
Yamaha's have always felt sluggish in responsiveness, way too planted in the front, and much more of a revvy bike than I care for.
How's the phrase go? "Power is nothing without control".
having a smooth bike can be just as important as having 100 horses. Especially for woods!
