Nevadans take notice

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  • Drinkn_Buddy

Posted 26 March 2009 - 02:34 PM

#1


Need to read and respond. This is a proposal for OHV registration.




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  • azmotobrat

Posted 26 March 2009 - 07:43 PM

#2

Besides the fact that we all need to be very active and do what we can to protect our riding rights and territories, I also would like to recommend that the best way to deal with all these regulations-obsessed idiots is this: become street legal (in AZ and I believe in Nevada too all it takes is brake light for both front and rear, headlight, one foldable mirror and horn). Get the plate, and you can ride anywhere you want, any forest service roads, state land etc. Definitely if it's completely closed to motorized, nothing we can do without getting in trouble on the way out. I ride everywhere in California with my Arizona street legal plate, and nothing they can do about it, while non-plated bikes have to stay contained within OHV boundaries.

  • Drinkn_Buddy

Posted 27 March 2009 - 10:47 AM

#3

azmotobrat said:

Besides the fact that we all need to be very active and do what we can to protect our riding rights and territories, I also would like to recommend that the best way to deal with all these regulations-obsessed idiots is this: become street legal (in AZ and I believe in Nevada too all it takes is brake light for both front and rear, headlight, one foldable mirror and horn). Get the plate, and you can ride anywhere you want, any forest service roads, state land etc. Definitely if it's completely closed to motorized, nothing we can do without getting in trouble on the way out. I ride everywhere in California with my Arizona street legal plate, and nothing they can do about it, while non-plated bikes have to stay contained within OHV boundaries.


Amen brother...... If you in Nevada, get them registered while you can. There are already stirrings to crack down on this.

  • llamaface

Posted 27 March 2009 - 10:53 AM

#4

Drinkn_Buddy said:

Need to read and respond. This is a proposal for OHV registration.

Sounds like nevada is trying to create an ohv registration process and funding similar to what every other western state has. Hopefully it will be excellent and workable, like idaho, and I believe utah and oregon, and not chock full of suck like california.

If I were commenting on it, I'd read carefully the part about the makeup of the commission. That's where the anti-access kooks will try to stack the deck and get more members of ohv-hate groups in positions block funding of anything constructive.

I lived in nevada when they were working on the current voluntary registration plan that allows legal access to all unpaved roads (unless signed otherwise), but as far as I can tell, not too many people took advantage of that... or even ever heard about it, lol.

  • sierrarider

Posted 27 March 2009 - 01:47 PM

#5

Nevada does require 2 mirrors and turn signals as well to follow code along with front and rear brake actuators for the brake light. I'm relieved I got my KTM plated last year. I read a lot of the bill and think it could be good for the OHV community. It will not go to the general fund and a good portion of the funds go towards marking and maintaining existing trails. It should "legitimize" our hobby. It has provisions for taxing out of state bike purchases, protecting (expensive) local dealers. I hope this bill doesn't get ruined like the one proposed last year :banghead: which thankfully failed.

  • Drinkn_Buddy

Posted 27 March 2009 - 02:01 PM

#6

llamaface said:

Sounds like nevada is trying to create an ohv registration process and funding similar to what every other western state has. Hopefully it will be excellent and workable, like idaho, and I believe utah and oregon, and not chock full of suck like california.

If I were commenting on it, I'd read carefully the part about the makeup of the commission. That's where the anti-access kooks will try to stack the deck and get more members of ohv-hate groups in positions block funding of anything constructive.

I lived in nevada when they were working on the current voluntary registration plan that allows legal access to all unpaved roads (unless signed otherwise), but as far as I can tell, not too many people took advantage of that... or even ever heard about it, lol.



I am afraid that it would end up like the California registration horror story. Maybe i am wrong but i would kick myself afterwords if the same bit of legislation came back to haunt me a few years later. Right now, i can ride any time of the year just about anywhere i like. I would hate to see that changed.


I currently have my KTM 300 taged, but that is for when i ride in California....

  • notagraphicartist

Posted 27 March 2009 - 02:20 PM

#7

This is as much about sales tax collection as any legitimate "registration". Buy your ATV in Cali or Oregon, pay no tax at purchase (out of state) and then bring it home. You just saved 7.375% (give or take). The in-state dealers are behind it because it removes one of the incentives to buy out of state.

The bottom line is - it's coming, in one form or another. Hold up so far has been that no one wants to be responsible for it - the only agency with the infrastructure to handle it is the DMV - and they don't want it because its going to cost more to administer than they will make.

+1 on the "get a plate" comments. No reason not to in NV.

  • llamaface

Posted 27 March 2009 - 03:36 PM

#8

Drinkn_Buddy said:

Right now, i can ride any time of the year just about anywhere i like. I would hate to see that changed.

That will definitely change, at least the 'anywhere you like' part. Travel management is coming to a blm office near you. Probably has been there to some extent for a few years. The question is will be cali style suckness or not. I hope not, but that's where y'all's involvement comes in. Unfortunately, lots of cali enviro-kooks either live near vegas or reno, or have run out of people to harass in cali, so their organizations will happily send them to torment you whenever required. We had a steady stream of them in Ely during consideration of yet another bad wilderness proposal.

notagraphicartist said:

This is as much about sales tax collection as any legitimate "registration". Buy your ATV in Cali or Oregon, pay no tax at purchase (out of state) and then bring it home. You just saved 7.375% (give or take). The in-state dealers are behind it because it removes one of the incentives to buy out of state.
It's still a criminal act to avoid the sales taxes, but currently it's easy to do (until you move to idaho and are forced to title your bikes and pay tax years later :foul: ). If a mandatory registration law passes, it will be hard to do.

Typically, the anti-access kooks want a majority of the commission to from anti-access groups, and they want large metal license plates instead of stickers, and they want everything to be closed everywhere, unless it is specifically signed and designated open. These are all things that are worth fighting against. If you can get a bill without any of those things, I would strongly suggest working to see it pass and being done with it, and possibly having some trail development in the future (and not having to buy an out-of-state sticker in cali or utah or oregon or idaho). Otherwise, the anti-access kooks and the we-want-your-sales-tax kooks will keep bringing it back.

  • Extreme Outdoors

Posted 29 May 2009 - 06:39 AM

#9

Actually the OHV registration bill was brought forward by the Nevada Wilderness Coalition. I was reading some of the minutes and pretty sure this is who wrote this bill.

We tried to get our Side By Side bill and Dual Sport registration bill amended to SB394. They did not want it in their bill. (according to Assemblyman Hardy)

At this point I'm talking to the GOVs office. I was a big supporter of his way back when, before he was in congress. I hoping he will help his out, but you know politicians, even shorter memory than us voters.

Anyhow right now in order to ride legally in Nevada you have to have the tax paid stamp, I have just not heard of anyone enforcing it.

  • Extreme Outdoors

Posted 29 May 2009 - 06:41 AM

#10

sierrarider said:

Nevada does require 2 mirrors and turn signals as well to follow code along with front and rear brake actuators for the brake light. I'm relieved I got my KTM plated last year. I read a lot of the bill and think it could be good for the OHV community. It will not go to the general fund and a good portion of the funds go towards marking and maintaining existing trails. It should "legitimize" our hobby. It has provisions for taxing out of state bike purchases, protecting (expensive) local dealers. I hope this bill doesn't get ruined like the one proposed last year :banghead: which thankfully failed.

Right now, Nevada is not allowing dual sport registrations. Many of us are working on this issue.



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