Chickenhauler, you're missing my point.  I'm all for as many people racing as possible and promoters turning a profit BUT there comes a point where it just gets ridiculous.

My problem is I don't like motocross being turned into 4 year old t-ball like everything else in this world.  There are winners and there are losers in sports.  If you're not good enough to be racing C class, then keep practicing and work your way up to that speed.  Where I grew up, C class was the lowest class and I didn't race until I felt I could stand a chance in that class.  Should someone with as little skills as a D class racer really be racing? C class can get pretty sketchy, I don't know if I'd want to see D.

In the early 90's Kahoka, Missouri had a beginners "D" class, the catch was that as soon as you won a race, you were automatically moved to C.  It was a great system for allowing new riders to get started.  You saw everything from RM 125s to XR 350s in that class and it seemed like when the winner of the last race moved to C there was always at least one new guy to take his place.

man never thought posting about a sandbagger would turn into such a debate. I guess thats the fun of the interent.

You're missing my point entirely-no air charlie explains it quite well.  It was being practiced just like he said around here for Hare Scrambles, and they called it "X CLASS", no points, no trophy's, and reduced entry fees, but only allowed to race it once to "get your feet wet".

I think "D" Class has it's merits if it's implemented properly....not a "real" race with any status, but a chance for green riders to get a taste without being thrown to the wolves.

Now I do like this method of having a D class and would be all for it.  If for nothing else, it would be one entertaining class to watch!

This Thread is Awesome!!!!
Just looked at the results from southeast regional at mill creek.   Definetly atleast one rider who qualified  in vet 30 B/C who has raced 25A and 30A for the last couple of years around here.  Sandbaggers suck!!

there are plenty of sandbaggers in harescramble racing but it's more obvious because you wear a transponder and lap times are recorded.

the 201-open C winner
Bryan Clucas best lap 11:35

A class winner
best lap 10:58
most laps were above 11min though

this is straight from the horses mouth:
http://www.foxvalley...14/6-14main.htm

i just seen the overall results from a harescramble.some    ~C~ riders
finished in the top 50% in big bikes and the adult quad race.
     the guys that run the show don`t seem to care.
      can an experenced racer tell me if it`s ok?