Thinking about buying 2008 CRF450R - need some advise please


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  • MR2turbo4evr

Posted March 23, 2009 - 03:06 PM

#1

Hey guys,

First off, I just wanted to let you know that I posed this question on the Honda forum on this site as well but would like some honest input of some Yamaha owners as well, preferably guys who have owned both, the CRF450R and the YZ450F.

I currently own a 2001 CBR600F4i and a 2001 TTR125L and I'm fairly unbiased between Honda and Yamaha.

I've wanted a 450 4stroke for quite some time now. I don't really care for Kawasakis and Suzukis because I don't have any experience with them, so I've done a lot of research on the YZ450F and the CRF450R. From what I've read, the YZ seems to be extremly reliable and can go a very long time before you need to worry about shimming the valves, etc.

After reading about the CRF valve issues, I decided to look for a YZ450F. Problem is that most people who own dirt bikes around here don't maintain them properly and basically run them into the ground, replace the top end and repeat. I'm very picky when it comes to maintenance so I'd really like to get a new one so I don't have to worry about anything.

It turns out that my local Honda dealer still has a new leftover CRF450R in stock which he is selling very cheap. I'm really really tempted to buy it, but I don't want to have to worry about the top end valve problems, because then I might as well buy a used bike and save quite a bit of money.

I don't plan on racing this bike and will mainly use it to screw around off road and to practice wheelies and stoppies, etc, basically replacing my TTR. My question is, have the CRF valve issues been resolved or do these issues really only apply to bikes which are getting raced hard and/or not maintained properly? Again I don't plan on racing this bike, but it will get ridden hard every once in a while and I plan on putting many hours on it as I would ride it almost every day.

I would really appreciate some honest feedback. Please post your positive and negative experiences with these bikes. Thanks in advance!

  • Ga426owner

Posted March 23, 2009 - 04:01 PM

#2

the 08 CRF is nice - what is the price?
valves will wear out before yzf but all depends on how and where you ride
YZF suspension is better
CRF motor is slightly stronger ...ditching the yzf stupid pipe
price will dictate the decision - you can not go wrong with either 08's

but for just play riding wheelies etc.....buy a 500 2smoke

  • rdrata

Posted March 23, 2009 - 08:12 PM

#3

I have an 06 YZ450F my son has the 06 CRF450; respect to both bikes. I like the ergonomics and precision of controls as well as the turning of the CR; I much prefer the suspension, stability and broad engine band of the YZ

  • MR2turbo4evr

Posted March 23, 2009 - 09:18 PM

#4

the 08 CRF is nice - what is the price?
valves will wear out before yzf but all depends on how and where you ride
YZF suspension is better
CRF motor is slightly stronger ...ditching the yzf stupid pipe
price will dictate the decision - you can not go wrong with either 08's

but for just play riding wheelies etc.....buy a 500 2smoke


The bike is going for $6850CDN. It was $8500 last year so it's a good deal in my opinion. Used 04-06 CRF's and YZ's go for around $4000-$5000 around here.

  • MR2turbo4evr

Posted March 23, 2009 - 09:19 PM

#5

I have an 06 YZ450F my son has the 06 CRF450; respect to both bikes. I like the ergonomics and precision of controls as well as the turning of the CR; I much prefer the suspension, stability and broad engine band of the YZ



What about reliability? Do you find that the CRF needs to have the valves shimmed more frequently?

  • rdrata

Posted March 23, 2009 - 09:26 PM

#6

Both are reliable; I am told from my local mechanic that yes the CR needs more attention on the valves

  • 426 NOOB

Posted March 23, 2009 - 09:29 PM

#7

What about reliability? Do you find that the CRF needs to have the valves shimmed more frequently?

my best friend rides a crf 450r and he has to shim every 6 months. And has already had to do a full valvetrain replacement and its only an 07. My 426 is an 01 and the valves have never moved out of spec, and have never been shimmed. Not once. Then again there have been people who have had no problems with the crf's. i guess it just depends on luck. So the question is, are you feelin lucky?

  • husqy360

Posted March 23, 2009 - 11:47 PM

#8

lol last post was good.

6800 is very cheap for ab, here 07 second hand go for 6500.

im sure u need to had the gst and build, so about 7400 otd.

i love my 06 which i payed 5 g last year.

i think its very very close.

id still preffer a new 08 crf then a used 08 yzf for the same price.

but if u find a cheap like new yz450f go for the blue.

  • cumminsklx650

Posted March 24, 2009 - 08:43 AM

#9

If you're looking for a cheap bike in AB, Blackfoot has brand new 08 yz450's for 5999.00 canadian... unfortunately I bought mine when it was 6299.00

  • jschwalbe

Posted March 24, 2009 - 11:21 AM

#10

I picked up a used '06 YZ450 about a year ago for $3200 - the bike still had the original sprocket and about 30 - 35 hours of use. I've done some minor tweaks to the bike and put another 20 hours or son it and just checked the valves which are still within clearance...

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  • LAndrew

Posted March 24, 2009 - 12:36 PM

#11

I was debating those 2 08's as well. I have an 05 CRF450 and had to replace the intake valves at 70 hours. Once replaced with quality steel ones I have never had a problem. I did a piston/rings/cam chain and the valves were holding fine when I checked them. It was/is a great bike and I almost stayed Red this year.

I wanted a newer lower hour bike and thought I'd stay with Honda, but then saw a great deal on a YZ450F and started learning more about the Yamaha's.

A 450 has enough power but the suspension and long term reliability was something I wanted to look at this year.

The price on the YZ450 I found started the whole deal going so I suppose that was the first hurdle towards Yamaha. The bike was not stock and treated really well so that really sealed the deal for me.

I got mine at Blackfoot in Calgary and they have great prices there.

I really liked my CRF but wanted to try another brand. I cant say much on the ride of the 08 YZ450 because the trails/tracks still have 3 weeks of melting at least to muddy/dry ground!!!

  • husqy360

Posted March 25, 2009 - 10:12 AM

#12

If you're looking for a cheap bike in AB, Blackfoot has brand new 08 yz450's for 5999.00 canadian... unfortunately I bought mine when it was 6299.00



is it otd?

i payed for my 06 with like 20-30 hours 5 g last year.
the funny thing is that 06s still sales over 4500 :thumbsup:

  • LAndrew

Posted March 25, 2009 - 01:39 PM

#13

No its not. Add GST if cash and if financing add $250 fee plus a $62.50 Govt. lien fee plus GST. If you stand tough you can get the $250 down to $150.

Perhaps they would move the bike down another $100 if you told them you are "heading in specifically for that bike right now tonight, make me a deal or i'm going somewhere else!!"

There parts we reasonable too: ASV Vince levers for $68CDN ( discount - after buying a bike )

  • jjj109

Posted March 25, 2009 - 01:54 PM

#14

is it otd?

i payed for my 06 with like 20-30 hours 5 g last year.
the funny thing is that 06s still sales over 4500 :usa:



If you are paying more then $4000.00 for an 2006 yz450f you are getting ripped off. My buddy bought a left over new last year for $4200.00 out the door from a dealer in ohio. There is much better deals out there if you look around. They are selling 2009 yz450f for $5399.00 plus a doc fee 185.00 Thats $5584.00 out the door no extra cost!!:lol: Thats CRAZY CHEAP for a new bike. Shoot I paid $6250.00 for a brand new 2001 yz426f back in the day.:thumbsup:

  • Todddob

Posted March 25, 2009 - 02:07 PM

#15

Quote from above: They are selling 2009 yz450f for $5399.00 plus a doc fee 185.00 Thats $5584.00 out the door no extra cost!


You must remember that's $6873.00CAD.

  • jjj109

Posted March 25, 2009 - 02:17 PM

#16

oops yeah forgot about the exchange rate. ha sorry

  • jjj109

Posted March 25, 2009 - 02:23 PM

#17

well if you live in the USA we can get crazy good deals right now on all left over bikes. Im like soo ready to go buy a new bike. :thumbsup:

  • HONDA NO MORE

Posted March 25, 2009 - 04:34 PM

#18

I have only owned YZ's, but of the 8 CRF 450's that are owned by friends, ALL of them have had to have valves to the tune of 800-1000 bucks. Some have been very well maintained others not at all. My experience with CRF's is it's not a question of if the valves will go out but when. The CRF handles a little better for my style of riding (Offroad, singletrack), but I won't trade that for a valve job every summer.

  • usmcpaul

Posted March 25, 2009 - 06:08 PM

#19

I have only owned YZ's, but of the 8 CRF 450's that are owned by friends, ALL of them have had to have valves to the tune of 800-1000 bucks. Some have been very well maintained others not at all. My experience with CRF's is it's not a question of if the valves will go out but when. The CRF handles a little better for my style of riding (Offroad, singletrack), but I won't trade that for a valve job every summer.



That's why I switched to Yamaha. 2 years, 2 Honda's and 4 valve jobs later!

My friends and I now have a joke when we talk to people.....We ask them if they got the 'Auto-Shim' option when they bought it.:thumbsup:

  • husqy360

Posted March 25, 2009 - 10:06 PM

#20

what do i need to do to bring a dirt bike from the us the canada? (new or old)
we own a house in the states, from what i know it does metter with new cars.





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