Help fight Helmet Laws
Posted August 09, 2002 - 07:36 PM
first they want to make us wear helmets, how ridiculous its really hot in the dunes, and besides the sand is pretty soft, second they want to also impose a no alcohol policy, which would apply to almost every rider there. Most of us have coolies attached to the handle bars, how else are supposed to stay hydrated and cool. And on top of it all they want us to stop riding double and have whip flags, the stupid flags keep hitting the rider in back in the head.
So please go to the attached link and sign the petition to stop unecessary helmet and alcohol rules. www.getdrunksmashhead.com
If we dont stop them who will?????????
Posted August 10, 2002 - 04:38 AM
First Helmet Laws, Yes I endorse them, Why should I pay for your stupid ass head getting squished between bikes and sand or head on in the dunes. Once your in a coma with head trauma, who picks up the tab "YOU" Ya right Give me a freaking break.
Second Alchohal: I suppose you drive with an open container also in the city streets. Drinking while riding, and ya wonder why dirt bikers have a "BAD RAP" and get pummled all the time.
Geez Oatmeal, the sport is fighting for its life here, we need to be responcible advocates for the sport. Helmet laws are good, would you let you kid ride with out one, if you answer yes to that, then your a bigger moron then I thought, and if you do have kids and you ride with no helmet, what is that teaching them and what type of responciblity is that to your family. Kids cant hug a dead dad.
So please dont come back with your flame and social stance "I can do what ever I want So F*** Off" its my life Attitude. We all pay for the mistakes of others....
And no you cant do what ever you want expecially when it effects the masses.
Help support Helmet Laws they save lives and protects the stupid
BTW nice Link you posted must of been 4 to many Coolies when ya posted it Huuuh
I appologies for getting bent but you touched a very sore subject with me.
[ August 10, 2002: Message edited by: E.G.O.**** ]
Posted August 10, 2002 - 10:24 AM
Posted August 10, 2002 - 10:42 AM
Posted August 10, 2002 - 11:10 AM
Same as seat belts in cars... they save lives, but only if they are worn... the airbag in your car will not save you if you don't wear your seatbelt as well... how many times do you see kids NOT wearing seat belts in cars... too often I bet... yesterday I saw the most irresposible bit of parenting I have see in a long time... two kids, age 3 and 5, rinding their pushbikes along the main road in town, and riding contrary to traffic lights... they just rode therough the intersection when the lights were red, and the others had just turned green... lucky the drivers both ways saw them and waited... parents nowhere to be seen... I stopped the kids and found they had been sent to the shop for milk and cigarettes by their mother... incredible...
Anyway, no matter what laws the govt. makes, some people will disobey them just to make some sort of point, others will do it out of stupidity, and yet others think they are invincible... The hardest thing is to protect people from themselves sometimes... Think of it as a natural selection process... next generation of dirtbikers will be a smarter breed... the dumb ones will have been killed off...
BTW, any hints on insulated cup holders for my WR so I can enjoy a cold one while riding... LOL
Posted August 10, 2002 - 11:17 AM
Originally posted by E.G.O.****:
I was not going to respond but I am...
Wow EGO! Have you been drinking? Read the post again, see the winkie in the title, look at the name of the site he linked, and realize that he was joking.
Posted August 10, 2002 - 02:09 PM
Posted August 10, 2002 - 04:44 PM
Posted August 11, 2002 - 04:27 AM
Just on a social note, I'm sure you do something dangerous (drink? smoke? drive fast? eat fatty foods? shower without a mat?) that you are willing to risk because you want to do it. Which of your neighbors would you entrust to second guess you? And which would you entrust with enforcement action?
Posted August 11, 2002 - 05:46 AM
I guess Im gonna go sky diving without a shut
Or scuba diving with out an air tank.
You missed the point
Gear gear is what saves you life, do you see Major League BaseBall using no helmets when at bat, wonder why> Hows about a 100mph fast ball to the side or your head.
Im sorry, I am no supporter of a governement that legislates stupidity,
But some people need that legislation becouse as on other post put it. There too stupid to think for themselvs...
Posted August 11, 2002 - 06:12 AM
In New York, Crime constitutes a Misdemeanor or Felony, not a Violation. You see, a Violation most often means the issuance of a ticket (Uniform Traffic Ticket or Appearance Ticket), which must be answered by court appearance, or by mail. A Crime on the other hand, means you go with the officer for processing (fingerprints, photograph, etc.) and maybe a brief stay in lockup, prior to your arraignment. I doubt that it's an actual Crime to not wear a helmet where you live. Check it out and let us know.
Anyone who thinks helmets are a bad idea is fooling himself. Just join a police officer in a "parts collection" the next time he is at a fatal accident scene, and one of his unwritten job duties is picking up parts of the un-helmeted deceased rider. It's very analogous to the un-seatbelted driver.
Some laws are in place to protect people. Often, that means protecting the stupid from themselves. If you want to compare helmet laws to a restriction of freedom, go ahead. Obviously a helmet would not be protecting much for you.
Posted August 11, 2002 - 07:04 AM
A DOT helmet is certified for headon crashes up to 17mph. At 17mph, you don't get parts. If there are parts, the helmet wouldn't do **** . Thanks for the enlightenment. Sounds like liberal 'make up rhetoric and pretend its official' method of winning minds of mush.
EGO, skydiving without a chute or scuba diving without an air tank would be analogous to going motocrossing without a motorcycle. In both cases, they are the enabling equipment, not the safety equipment.
I'm used to people not getting the point, that the fed government doesn't have a role, much less a constitutional role. You both seem to understand my personal freedom/personal choice issue and my aversion to the government controlling which activities we can participate in and how we have to behave when participating in them. Damn, I'm out of ideas. We just disagree, more strongly than either of you can possibly imagine.
Good luck with the jack boots,
Remember Ruby Ridge, Waco, and the Forest Service,
p.s., does anyone else think it's strange that the government is starting so many of our worst fires? A government controlled burn burned most of Los Alamos, then a USFS rangerette started a big one, then a government helicopter 'protecting Americans' with a war on drugs burned a significant chunk of the NorthWest. Just imagine the trouble an individual or corporation would run into if they did such egregious things.
Posted August 11, 2002 - 07:33 AM
Actually, there's nothing "made up" about my actual experience at serious accidents, as I am in law enforcement myself. The irony that you deem my position as "liberal rhetoric" is priceless and very humorous. Keep the laughs coming.
If anyone sounds liberally rhetorical here, it's not me. Crying about getting a ticket for no helmet because "it's my choice" is infantile. It's the law, that's all; if you choose to defy it, pay your ticket and move on. If you get away with not wearing a helmet, or it's not the law where you live, so be it. That fact simply remains: it's a very good idea to wear the best protective gear possible, especially a helmet.
Posted August 11, 2002 - 08:22 AM
Posted August 11, 2002 - 11:05 AM
Ok a regulater and a Safty shoot.
Or maybe a altimeter or depth gauge
The point not every one has solid mass between the ears, some is mush, some is air, some is Poopoo.
I love freedom to thats why I am a sepremist
Geez mark you live in Idaho or Montana dont ya, you are a freeman or part of the identity movment
Jus razzin ya. Ya we can disagree, but it still dont make you right
Posted August 11, 2002 - 01:34 PM
Wish I could meet you guys at the Very Official and Highly Anticipated First Annual West Coast TT Ride. Maybe next time.