Preliminary data on woodruff key failures
Posted March 20, 2003 - 04:52 AM
I can't comment too much until I get a copy of what he was sent but the difference between 47-50 ft-lbs is really just a torque wrench that hasn't been calibrated lately since most have a +/- 3% margin of error to begin with. I find it interesting that at one time it might have been 61 ft-lbs and then dropped down to 47 ft-lbs with the insert you speak of.
Just my .02
Posted March 20, 2003 - 07:29 PM
Posted March 21, 2003 - 09:19 PM
Posted March 22, 2003 - 05:32 AM
Now what problems have you had with your bike again?
Posted March 22, 2003 - 08:56 AM
WITH PROBLEMS ON WR450 FLYWHEEL/W/RUFF KEYS.I AM NOW ON MY d:
THIRD WOODRUFF KEY IN APPROX 90KM BOTH TIMES IT WAS REPAIRED
BY MY LOCAL YAM DEALER (AT NO COST).I LIVE ON THE ISLE OF MAN & MINE IS FIRST WR450 HERE.YAMAHA U.K. SAY THEY HAVE RUN
OUT OF WOODRUFF KEYS & ROTORS,SO MY DEALER TOOK ONE OF THE
OTHER NEW WR450 HE HAD.(ECELLENT SERVICE,CANT FAULT HIM).
WILL TAKE BIKE OUT AGAIN TOMORROW AND PUT SOME KMS ON IT
FINGERS CROSSED,WILL UPDATE
MANXIE [color:red] [/color]
Posted March 22, 2003 - 10:16 AM
Posted March 22, 2003 - 08:23 PM
I wish I would have found this site before I went riding and got stranded for about an hour!
I even got the paper insert in my manual, but the stupid ass service dept at Champion Yamaha in Costa Mesa, CA obviously didn't read the insert or something.
I'll be bringing it in tomorrow to see what they say.
Has anyone had it fail again after bringing it in for service/repair?
(BTW: I stalled it, then pressed the E-Start and it just spun (had used E-Start probably 10+ times before this happened)
Posted March 24, 2003 - 04:45 AM
It is a shame Yamaha is attempting to deny there is a problem but that is typical of large corporations. It will take continuous customer and media pressure for them to deal with the problem
Bama, I didn't realize that Yamaha was denying the problem, how are they doing this? I thought they came out with a TSB stating a fix that some guys have commented on???????
Posted March 24, 2003 - 07:48 AM
LOL. Call Yamaha Customer Service and ask them to fax you a copy of the TSB. LOL. They will only release information to the dealer. Pitty the customer who doesn't know about ThumperTalk.
Posted March 24, 2003 - 07:58 AM
LOL. Call Yamaha Customer Service and ask them to fax you a copy of the TSB. LOL. They will only release information to the dealer. Pitty the customer who doesn't know about ThumperTalk
I would guess that is a company policy which is a bit different than a denial of the problem. Thats what I was curious about is the denial of the problem. Is this policy what Bama is equating to denial??
Posted March 24, 2003 - 09:20 AM
I will say this, while I'm not happy to be working on bugs I consider to be pre-production type problems, Yamaha has made every attempt to get this resolved so I'm giving them the benefit of doubt for now.
Posted March 24, 2003 - 09:29 AM
Posted March 24, 2003 - 09:57 AM
sounds like they got you dialed in. Thats cool.
I still wonder why it's taking so long for the TSB... And why not send a letter to customers warning of possible problems.
Does JD Powers rate motorcycles???
Posted March 24, 2003 - 10:43 AM
Damn and to think this is just some "lame excuse" for a "bad design" and they only want my money
Posted March 24, 2003 - 11:10 AM
I called Yamaha and asked them about this, and they told me there wasn't any "recall" on the WR450F. They didn't even seem to really care about anything or give me any information at all about the problem. They did tell me that my dealership needs to get information on how to fix this from Yamaha directly.
After I get my bike back, I'm gonna ask them what they did to my bike to fix it, and i'll post it later.
To think people on the Internet have been talking about this since Feb, yet people today are still riding and getting stuck!
Wish we could take the people at Yamaha responsible for this and make them push our [@#$%&*!] bike back!
Posted March 24, 2003 - 12:26 PM
Posted March 24, 2003 - 12:50 PM
Posted March 24, 2003 - 01:55 PM
Posted March 24, 2003 - 02:16 PM
flywheel,lapped it,and used red Loctite to hold it in place
So they are putting the red loctite on the mating surface of the rotor and crank? I got to get this all dialed in cause I'm suppose to pick mine up next Monday and I'm gonna do this stuff before I even start the thing.