Who would and who would not?
Posted August 06, 2002 - 12:42 PM
Now I would never do this, but I have a friend who is thinking about it. Would that fly? Why or why not?
Posted August 06, 2002 - 01:30 PM
The oil lines are different.
The swingarm is different, so the mounts may be positioned differently.
Oops, I just reread the post, the only problem I see then is the VIN on the bike will not match the registration. That could conceivably come back to haunt you.
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[ August 06, 2002: Message edited by: Hick ]
Posted August 06, 2002 - 01:31 PM
Posted August 06, 2002 - 01:57 PM
Posted August 06, 2002 - 02:24 PM
Seriously, they can make your life miserable here in Calif. It's not worth the chance here.
Posted August 06, 2002 - 03:31 PM
Posted August 06, 2002 - 03:57 PM
Up here you just the bring the bill of sale
on any new bike to the MOT (our DOT) and they will give you a plate. (After they suck your wallet dry in taxes). No safety.
I realize Your delema . I think you could get away with it ,IF all the parts match up.
Hell you would have another WR with the left over parts. What can they say? The parts ARE interchangable. Just say OOPS I didn't know.
That is if you keep both bikes.
Posted August 06, 2002 - 05:36 PM
If the answer is yes, I would do it. Just dont get pulled over, plus the chance of checking the vin on the bike versus the registration is slim.
Last time I talked with the man while riding my non-street legal wr, he only tagged me for no operators license, didnt seem to even care to examine the bikes for insurance, plate, turn signals, etc.
Do what ever you feel comfortable doing, only you can answer that.
Posted August 06, 2002 - 09:15 PM
Posted August 06, 2002 - 09:53 PM
Just a thought...
Posted August 06, 2002 - 10:12 PM
[ August 07, 2002: Message edited by: AZWR426 ]
Posted August 06, 2002 - 10:24 PM
Posted August 06, 2002 - 11:57 PM
Posted August 07, 2002 - 05:57 AM
In the instance of KTM's, they do not say on the bike either a "For Road Use" or "For Off-Road Use Only", so one is able take those to the State Patrol and get them inspected for street use.
I have never been pulled over by the law on my motorcycle (I have been pulled over many times in my car, and received a ticket dang near every time) but I was with a friend once who was, and the officer was more concerned with the bike he was on not having a DOT approved rear tire. (Then the officer escorted us into the bar because my buddy had a half-rack in his backpack, but that is another story) The officer checked that he was a licensed rider, ensured that the plate on the bike was current, but I do not recall him asking to see the registration. (I don't usually carry that with me, but maybe I should.)
I think that the chance of being caught in this endeavor are minimal.
As for the insurance liablility, you cannot squeeze blood from a turnip. In Washington state, you are not required to carry even liablity insurance to ride motorcycles on the public roads.
I'll be sure to pass this on to my "buddy".
Posted August 08, 2002 - 06:05 PM
Posted August 10, 2002 - 09:11 PM
Posted August 11, 2002 - 01:38 AM
Posted August 12, 2002 - 07:06 PM
Posted August 13, 2002 - 10:55 AM
For what it's worth, here's my .02 cents worth.
I would stay clear from the suggestions about altering the VIN on the frame. That is a felony here in WA, and "could" get you some jail time. Again, we're talking only if you got caught.
If you were to put your '98 plate on an unlicensed bike (like an '03), that is just a simple traffic infraction which is a $171 fine. The kicker to this one is that your '98 plate is subject to being confiscated and destroyed. As long as the bike had the full Baja Kit and looked street legal, I would think the chances of getting pulled over would be slim. Also, if the plate was run by the boys in blue (or khaki!), I'd bet the chances of them cross-referencing the registration number to the VIN would also be slim. The only time it would really stand out is if you're riding a brand spanking new bike and then they hear the registration come back to a '98 model (get my drift). Just a roll of the dice if you chanced this method.
Have you thought about buying a used, licensed WR here in WA, or even getting one in Oregon that's already licensed and just transferring the title. I wonder if you could buy a new one in OR and get it licensed down there....then just bring it home and transfer the paperwork. Either way, good luck with whatever you decide.
Send me a personal message if you want any clarification on any of this, or want more info. Take care.