New WR450 Magic Button Starting Problem
Posted February 12, 2003 - 03:08 PM
And ideas would be extremely appreciated.
FYI. Other than that this bike is way cool.
Posted February 12, 2003 - 03:39 PM
I guess I should have done a search first. Thanks for an informative site. Damon
Posted February 12, 2003 - 04:31 PM
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Posted February 13, 2003 - 04:33 AM
Also the starter takes a lot of voltage to turn over the engine, robbing some of the voltage needed for the ignition system making it harder to start. When you kick it, all the voltage is being directed to the ignition system and not the starting system, so it starts easier.
I had my sub frame off last night changing the rear spring out, and the dang thing weighs a ton. If you removed the battery and just kicked it all the time, you could save a lot of weight. I don't know how the charging system would react with an open circuit though. It probably would be bad for it.
The bike starts way to easy with the kicker, kind of like a 125 2smoker. When starting it with the over-40 button just give it a couple twists of the throttle and crank it over.
Posted February 13, 2003 - 06:44 AM
When starting it with the over-40 button
Ya baby !!
I've gotta save my leg for beating with those young whipper snappers.
Posted February 13, 2003 - 06:59 AM
Posted February 13, 2003 - 07:56 AM
I never use it when the bike is cold.I kick start it and use the e-start when i'm being lazy or in a tight spot.
Posted February 13, 2003 - 08:12 AM
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Posted February 13, 2003 - 08:55 AM
Does it start on the first crank or the third, WHO CARES. Your not pulling levers, pushing buttons, going through some ridiculous drill, cussing, farting and spitting just to find it didn't work so you have to start all over again while you're balancing on your tippy toe on the side of a hill.
Push the button, crack the throttle and go. What a concept.
Posted February 13, 2003 - 11:48 AM
Posted February 13, 2003 - 04:07 PM
Nice to see we are members of the same club.
Posted February 14, 2003 - 05:04 AM
BTW she rides one of those new red things.. I think it is called a crf230. Not sure but all I know is it is red
Posted February 14, 2003 - 06:55 AM
I don't think that the starter turns the engine fast enough to fire first time every time. That is why the kick starter works better, you turn the engine over faster when you kick it. I have read where people have put a trickle charge on the battery and it starts easier, The engine turns over faster with more voltage, and starts easier.
David, I totally agree with you on this... The bike starts really easy, so much that the first time you start the bike in the morning you should kick it. After the bike is nice and warm 1/8 throttle and the button works great. The part when you stall in a technical section is all about the E-start especially when you're 5.8' like me. What do you think about having a battery half the size and only using it to restart the bike when warm? Hmmmmmm Might be able to save a couple of pounds and get more air into the airbox...
I know what you're saying about the weight of the whole system. The battery alone weighs 4 pounds. I'll bet someone will sell a kit with block off plates for the starter and instructions to pull the e-start off the bike, I'll bet you could take 10 pounds off the bike. For me the button is too much fun .
Posted February 14, 2003 - 07:48 AM
The bike feels and handles way lighter than it really is. I'm leaving mine just the way it is.
Has any body else taken a close look at the battery. It says right on the top "made especially for WR450". I bet that baby will be expensive when it goes bad. I hope a cheaper alternate will fit in the same location. Knowing Yamaha they made the battery an odd size so that you have to buy their model. I hope not.